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Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by danans »

ilamont wrote: post #3

The issue stems from the primer applied before gluing the optional light bar to the windshield (no fasteners are used in the attachment of the light bar). Is that typical in the industry, parts or components being glued onto an exterior surface instead of fastened?

Its even stranger because presumably the light requires a wire for power, so using an adhesive doesn't allow them to avoid making at least 1 hole in the roof.

Perhaps it's about minimizing the installation cost at the dealership.

The irony is that you'd imagine that an off-road roof mounted light would be something that you should be able to tighten when you are ... off-road.

I guess field serviceability isn't a design goal for these "off-road" trucks, but appearing "off-road" when going glamping is.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by timenotwasted »

I know Tesla and the various models have their issues but the Cybertruck and the rest of the Tesla models seem like they are made from two completely different companies. Every time I see one of these driving around trim pieces are missing from them which I don't recall seeing from any other brand.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by ModernMech »

timenotwasted wrote: post #12

I know Tesla and the various models have their issues but the Cybertruck and the rest of the Tesla models seem like they are made from two completely different companies. Every time I see one of these driving around trim pieces are missing from them which I don't recall seeing from any other brand.

That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models.

Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by monocasa »

ProllyInfamous wrote: post #2

Even presuming pieces weren't falling off , every time I see one of these my first thought is how did this pass safety standards (e.g. the sharp corners/blades/edges; pedestrian-strike setups). Now add on flying corners/blades/edges ... even less enthused. ---- I finally drove in a Rivian — and while I prefer the hybrid drivetrains — it was exceptionally nice. As an American, I can't wait for BYD to offer test drives…

Unfortunately Rivian somehow has even worse reliability than Tesla.

And you can buy a BYD in America. There's just a pre-Trump 100% tariff on Chinese EVs with bipartisan support that isn't going away any time soon.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by potato3732842 »

ilamont wrote: post #3

The issue stems from the primer applied before gluing the optional light bar to the windshield (no fasteners are used in the attachment of the light bar). Is that typical in the industry, parts or components being glued onto an exterior surface instead of fastened?

>Is that typical in the industry, parts or components being glued onto an exterior surface instead of fastened?

Yes. If automotive OEMs can glue it they will.

It's just that other OEMs don't build uninterrupted 5ft light bars so glueing is a much less suitable (think about how much glue contact patch per amount of light bar there is and how little leverage it's mass has over the glue, contrast with normal light) solution for them.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by toomuchtodo »

ModernMech wrote: post #14
timenotwasted wrote: post #12

I know Tesla and the various models have their issues but the Cybertruck and the rest of the Tesla models seem like they are made from two completely different companies. Every time I see one of these driving around trim pieces are missing from them which I don't recall seeing from any other brand.

That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models. Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by potato3732842 »

genter wrote: post #7
ilamont wrote: post #3

The issue stems from the primer applied before gluing the optional light bar to the windshield (no fasteners are used in the attachment of the light bar). Is that typical in the industry, parts or components being glued onto an exterior surface instead of fastened?

Windshields themselves are glued into the frame, and have been for years. They are a major part of the structure of the vehicle, as well as an important safety device, and there isn't a problem with them comining loose. Badges are attached with double sided tape, but obviously those are a lot smaller than a light bar.

More like tossed onto the A-pillars with glue. They don't really do "frames" anymore.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by toomuchtodo »

monocasa wrote: post #15
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #2

Even presuming pieces weren't falling off , every time I see one of these my first thought is how did this pass safety standards (e.g. the sharp corners/blades/edges; pedestrian-strike setups). Now add on flying corners/blades/edges ... even less enthused. ---- I finally drove in a Rivian — and while I prefer the hybrid drivetrains — it was exceptionally nice. As an American, I can't wait for BYD to offer test drives…

Unfortunately Rivian somehow has even worse reliability than Tesla. And you can buy a BYD in America. There's just a pre-Trump 100% tariff on Chinese EVs with bipartisan support that isn't going away any time soon.

I tried with much effort to import a BYD, and the federal government slowed me down every step of the way to where I gave up around regime change last November. If you have a way I can buy a BYD today, regardless of cost, in the US, I would be interested.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39992428

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by estearum »

ModernMech wrote: post #14
timenotwasted wrote: post #12

I know Tesla and the various models have their issues but the Cybertruck and the rest of the Tesla models seem like they are made from two completely different companies. Every time I see one of these driving around trim pieces are missing from them which I don't recall seeing from any other brand.

That's because Musk personally oversaw the design of the Cybertruck and likely rejected all pleas to make sensible decisions. Musk did not design the other models. Just like how SpaceX and Tesla and Twitter seem like they have three different CEOs; the degree of their competency is inversely proportional to the amount of day-to-day feedback Musk has into their operations.

Musk's superpower is cult-building. His fatal flaw is that he has no idea that is his superpower.
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