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Re: Collaboration sucks

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I would argue the opposite. If your collaboration sucks IMHO you haven’t done enough. It’s a skill. Imagine you’re playing a team sport and you recommended people play together less to win more games. Now look up Globetrotters vs Lakers.

Programming isn't a sport.

Re: Collaboration sucks

#13
“If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together”

I've often noticed that this is a favourite phrase of those whose preferred motion is narrating other people's work rather than doing it themselves. Teams do go further together. But only when everyone is rowing.

Re: Collaboration sucks

#14
This feels silly. I think this is just "ask for forgiveness, not permission" but made more clickbaity.

It also borders on a kind of edgelord attitude that I've seen from people who I wish not to work with again.

Re: Collaboration sucks

#15
While I don't agree with Charles' (clearly nuts) distaste for sparkling water, I'm happy to see people finally talking about this issue publicly.

I've suffered through this at several companies, down to the level of sometimes spending like 3x the time it took to implement the actual feature on answering and 'fixing' pedantic stylistic nitpicks during code reviews. While having a homogenous style is important, I'm solidly in the camp of "if you want to give me style nitpicks, just change them yourself, tell me, and save us both some time". This extends to like 80% of feedback I see in code reviews.

Be weird and do stuff. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DjvVN4Vp_r0

Re: Collaboration sucks

#17
There's no one size fits all - what they're saying would absolutely fail at the company I'm currently at, but sounds like it works for them. The key thing is to have a process that works well for the people who are there, and hire people who work well under those conditions. The people who do well at our company would not do well at their company, and vice versa. I don't like how this article makes a claim about what works well for them is actually a universal truth. It really depends on the people there.

Re: Collaboration sucks

#18
Taking the article's analogy of the "collaboration while driving", the F1 sport is quite insanely collaborative. For example, the drivers literally do have someone in their ear by radio being their coach and spotter for the entire trip. I've never heard of the equivalent in software. Does anyone know of anything like this?

Re: Collaboration sucks

#19
We don't collaborate, we iterate. I'm the lead of my department, so I sst the initial direction of the new feature, discuss it with my team, assign it, and let someone build the basic functionality. Then I'll review it, and I will pick up the code and move things around, refine the UX, refine the code, and then maybe pass it back to the developer for more changes, until we arrive at something really good. It doesn't make anyone unhappy or slow us down, and we often don't know where we're going to end up when we start a new feature. Things are fluid, but we have a goal of making things easy to use. Iteration among the team members also ensures more of the team knows how the code works, and we often learn from each other. Maybe this is "collaboration" but we call it iteration.

Re: Collaboration sucks

#20

If you know how to get stuff done yourself, start your own company, get stuff done, and enjoy the profits (or losses, depending on how good you are). It's your risk and your reward. If you are working for someone else, the unwritten rule #1 is that a single employee should not amass too much influence within the company to start dictating their own conditions. So, the management culture averages decisions across mult…

good advice, someone should have told me this years ago, when you start, you need to know that this is not your game, work, watch and learn. Don't even think about "this is wrong" "they should do this instead" "they have no idea" "I would do it much better"
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