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Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

#11

Anyone can make a long context window. The key is if your model can make effective use of it or not.

How do they make the context window longer? (serious question, I want to learn how this works)

You literally just shift the window over by to the next token once you reach the max amount of tokens you want for context window, NOT with what you train on, (only limited with memory now)

This has obvious issues since you're now losing information from the now unseen tokens which becomes significant if your context window is small in comparision of the answer/question you're looking at. That's why companies try to give stupidly large context windows. The problem is they're not training on the large context window, they're training on something smaller (2048 and above). Due to how attention is setup, you can train on a small amount of context and extrapolate it to any number of tokens possible since they train via ROPE which trains the model because on words and their offset to the neighboring words. This allows us to effectively x2,x3,x10,x100 the amount of tokens we generate vs train with with some form consistency BUT still cause a lot of issues consistency wise since the model approaches more of a "this was trained on snippets but not the entire thing" situation where it has a notion of the context but not fundamentally the entire combined context

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

#12
post #8

What matter is not context or the recod token/s you get. But the quality for the model. And it seem Grok pushing the wrong metrics again, after launching fast.

Seems reductive. Some applications require higher context length or fast tokens/s. Consider it a multidimensional Pareto frontier you can optimize for.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

#13
post #6

Who here actually uses Grok? It's sad to see Elon's arc but when he doubled down on some of his political ideas he had it coming with the Tesla sales going down and x.ai not taken seriously. I've always tried to remain apolitical and unbiased but it's hard to overlook who's behind a technology you wanna buy. Not that sama and others are saints either, it's just Elon's very obvious and vocal about it. It's a shame, re…

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Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

#14
post #6

Who here actually uses Grok? It's sad to see Elon's arc but when he doubled down on some of his political ideas he had it coming with the Tesla sales going down and x.ai not taken seriously. I've always tried to remain apolitical and unbiased but it's hard to overlook who's behind a technology you wanna buy. Not that sama and others are saints either, it's just Elon's very obvious and vocal about it. It's a shame, re…

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Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

#15
post #6

Who here actually uses Grok? It's sad to see Elon's arc but when he doubled down on some of his political ideas he had it coming with the Tesla sales going down and x.ai not taken seriously. I've always tried to remain apolitical and unbiased but it's hard to overlook who's behind a technology you wanna buy. Not that sama and others are saints either, it's just Elon's very obvious and vocal about it. It's a shame, re…

Grok fast is by far the most used model in openrouter with more than a trillion tokens weekly[1].

[1]: https://openrouter.ai/rankings

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

#16
post #6

Who here actually uses Grok? It's sad to see Elon's arc but when he doubled down on some of his political ideas he had it coming with the Tesla sales going down and x.ai not taken seriously. I've always tried to remain apolitical and unbiased but it's hard to overlook who's behind a technology you wanna buy. Not that sama and others are saints either, it's just Elon's very obvious and vocal about it. It's a shame, re…

For at least the last year, I've been using Grok for 90% of my queries. I pay for their $30 plan as well as $20 for Claude Code, which I only use for simple development projects. For anything more complicated, Grok's expert mode has consistently better results.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

#17
post #8

What matter is not context or the recod token/s you get. But the quality for the model. And it seem Grok pushing the wrong metrics again, after launching fast.

Depends. For coding at least, you can divide tasks into high-intelligence ($$$) and low-intelligence ($) tasks. Being able to do low-intelligence tasks super fast and cheap would be quite beneficial. A majority of code edits would fall into the fast-and-cheap subset.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

#18
post #6

Who here actually uses Grok? It's sad to see Elon's arc but when he doubled down on some of his political ideas he had it coming with the Tesla sales going down and x.ai not taken seriously. I've always tried to remain apolitical and unbiased but it's hard to overlook who's behind a technology you wanna buy. Not that sama and others are saints either, it's just Elon's very obvious and vocal about it. It's a shame, re…

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Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

#19
post #6

Who here actually uses Grok? It's sad to see Elon's arc but when he doubled down on some of his political ideas he had it coming with the Tesla sales going down and x.ai not taken seriously. I've always tried to remain apolitical and unbiased but it's hard to overlook who's behind a technology you wanna buy. Not that sama and others are saints either, it's just Elon's very obvious and vocal about it. It's a shame, re…

> I've always tried to remain apolitical and unbiased

Clearly

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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post #6

Who here actually uses Grok? It's sad to see Elon's arc but when he doubled down on some of his political ideas he had it coming with the Tesla sales going down and x.ai not taken seriously. I've always tried to remain apolitical and unbiased but it's hard to overlook who's behind a technology you wanna buy. Not that sama and others are saints either, it's just Elon's very obvious and vocal about it. It's a shame, re…

As you point out, Sam Altman is not exactly an altar boy: https://fastcompany.co.za/business/2025-11-07-sam-altmans-tr...
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