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Using the Web Monetization API for fun and profit

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Re: Using the Web Monetization API for fun and profit

#11

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tastyfreeze wrote: post #7
kg wrote: post #4

> You can adjust how much you want to pay the site per hour and also send one-time payments. The money is "streamed" every minute, which you can observe in DevTools. I guess the era of being able to leave a tab open without worrying about it is long over. Now you'll need to be careful to close every tab the moment you're done with it - perhaps after taking a screenshot of the page so you can read it more cheaply.

When Coil did their demos years ago the payment streaming examples were videos and music. A pay per minute kind of deal. Payment streaming for read content does sound abusive especially for slow readers.

Web Monetization supports multimedia content monetization as well (you place the `link` in your `audio` or `video`). Don't forget that you are in control. If you're a slow reader, adjust the site's amount, so when you spend a long time on a page they don't get excessive payments.

Re: Using the Web Monetization API for fun and profit

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Post by tomayac »

mzajc wrote: post #5
kg wrote: post #4

> You can adjust how much you want to pay the site per hour and also send one-time payments. The money is "streamed" every minute, which you can observe in DevTools. I guess the era of being able to leave a tab open without worrying about it is long over. Now you'll need to be careful to close every tab the moment you're done with it - perhaps after taking a screenshot of the page so you can read it more cheaply.

What happens if you block network for the tab once it's finished loading? Does it delete the page if payments aren't going through anymore?

I think this would technically be possible, but less practical once it's supported natively in the browser.

Re: Using the Web Monetization API for fun and profit

#13

Post by tomayac »

tomayac wrote: post #11
tastyfreeze wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When Coil did their demos years ago the payment streaming examples were videos and music. A pay per minute kind of deal. Payment streaming for read content does sound abusive especially for slow readers.

Web Monetization supports multimedia content monetization as well (you place the `link` in your `audio` or `video`). Don't forget that you are in control. If you're a slow reader, adjust the site's amount, so when you spend a long time on a page they don't get excessive payments.

Here's the docs for this: https://webmonetization.org/developers/link-element-webpage/.... You can monetize `audio`, `video`, and `picture` as well.

Re: Using the Web Monetization API for fun and profit

#14

Post by tomayac »

tomayac wrote: post #10
kg wrote: post #4

> You can adjust how much you want to pay the site per hour and also send one-time payments. The money is "streamed" every minute, which you can observe in DevTools. I guess the era of being able to leave a tab open without worrying about it is long over. Now you'll need to be careful to close every tab the moment you're done with it - perhaps after taking a screenshot of the page so you can read it more cheaply.

It only streams money when the tab is in the foreground and active. But yes, if you are on a monetized tab, get called for lunch, and don't lock your computer (what's wrong with these people , it could be that you stream all your funds to that one tab. I think the extension and the final browser UI once it's natively supported needs a way to let you limit the maximum amount of money, and also show you stats about whe…

Here's the docs for how and when continuous payments are being sent: https://webmonetization.org/developers/link-element-webpage/....

Re: Using the Web Monetization API for fun and profit

#15

Post by tomayac »

tomayac wrote: post #13
tomayac wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Web Monetization supports multimedia content monetization as well (you place the `link` in your `audio` or `video`). Don't forget that you are in control. If you're a slow reader, adjust the site's amount, so when you spend a long time on a page they don't get excessive payments.

Here's the docs for this: https://webmonetization.org/developers/link-element-webpage/... . You can monetize `audio`, `video`, and `picture` as well.

For the sake of completeness, you can also monetize your Atom, RSS, and JSON feeds: https://webmonetization.org/developers/rss-atom-jsonfeed/.

Re: Using the Web Monetization API for fun and profit

#16

Post by kuboble »

kg wrote: post #4

> You can adjust how much you want to pay the site per hour and also send one-time payments. The money is "streamed" every minute, which you can observe in DevTools. I guess the era of being able to leave a tab open without worrying about it is long over. Now you'll need to be careful to close every tab the moment you're done with it - perhaps after taking a screenshot of the page so you can read it more cheaply.

I guess if it would reach the higher level of adoption there would be a very easy way to charge back for the auto- requested stuff.

Also there could be mandatory confirmation required for any amount set.

Want to remove ads? Click and confirm.

For just donating 1c per minute of reading you could have those queued somewhere and still have a chance to explicitly approve it once a month / a week / a day

Re: Using the Web Monetization API for fun and profit

#18

Post by llbbdd »

kg wrote: post #4

> You can adjust how much you want to pay the site per hour and also send one-time payments. The money is "streamed" every minute, which you can observe in DevTools. I guess the era of being able to leave a tab open without worrying about it is long over. Now you'll need to be careful to close every tab the moment you're done with it - perhaps after taking a screenshot of the page so you can read it more cheaply.

This makes it obviously a pain in the ass that nobody normal will tolerate; dead on arrival, waste of time
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