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UK parliament debates Stop Killing Games campaign, but government doesn't budge

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Re: UK parliament debates Stop Killing Games campaign, but government doesn't budge

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Clearly they do work because this one achieved quite a lot. It’s not nothing to have a Parliamentary debate on a subject because of a petition!

The number of UK Government and Parliament petitions that have led to an identifiable policy change is so small as to be statistically negligible — effectively a rounding error compared with the total number submitted.

Right but a policy change isn't the guarentee offered just the debate. Getting to a debate is a win! Despite no concrete policy changes it doesn't mean there won't be other second order effects from having this bought to peoples attention.

If you think we're going to have government by petition then I don't know what to tell you.

Re: UK parliament debates Stop Killing Games campaign, but government doesn't budge

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We need new language around this (games, in-game purchases, movie rentals, music streaming). It's not digital ownership, or buying. It's renting with all rights given to the landlord.

The language exists already its all licenses. As the reply to the petition notes licenses have been used this way for software long before it became largely digitally distributed.

Re: UK parliament debates Stop Killing Games campaign, but government doesn't budge

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The number of UK Government and Parliament petitions that have led to an identifiable policy change is so small as to be statistically negligible — effectively a rounding error compared with the total number submitted.

Right but a policy change isn't the guarentee offered just the debate. Getting to a debate is a win! Despite no concrete policy changes it doesn't mean there won't be other second order effects from having this bought to peoples attention. If you think we're going to have government by petition then I don't know what to tell you.

I don't think people want government by petition, I think they just want petitions to have any meaningful impact at all. Which they currently don't.

Re: UK parliament debates Stop Killing Games campaign, but government doesn't budge

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right but a policy change isn't the guarentee offered just the debate. Getting to a debate is a win! Despite no concrete policy changes it doesn't mean there won't be other second order effects from having this bought to peoples attention. If you think we're going to have government by petition then I don't know what to tell you.

I don't think people want government by petition, I think they just want petitions to have any meaningful impact at all. Which they currently don't.

What does a meaningful impact look like if forcing a debate isn’t one?
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