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Norway reviews cybersecurity after remote-access feature found in Chinese buses

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Re: Norway reviews cybersecurity after remote-access feature found in Chinese buses

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This is why we invented the fine print. Not putting this information in the fine print is fraudulent behaviour

It was most likely in the specs from the beginning. You can't have busses roaming around with no way to turn them off remotely.

Can't you? And who should have that power? I believe that this is the concern.

Re: Norway reviews cybersecurity after remote-access feature found in Chinese buses

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This is why we invented the fine print. Not putting this information in the fine print is fraudulent behaviour

It was most likely in the specs from the beginning. You can't have busses roaming around with no way to turn them off remotely.

Yes, those wild buses on the loose have been a major problem

Re: Norway reviews cybersecurity after remote-access feature found in Chinese buses

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I do worry if they are adding this to buses what are they doing to MacBooks and your phone? Do people here think these devices are compromised or should we take Apple’s word for it!?

Of course they're compromised, by Apple, to comply with UK law.

Re: Norway reviews cybersecurity after remote-access feature found in Chinese buses

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This is just stupid. All modern vehicles har been fully remote controllable for years.

I fully agree. If these were buses from any other country, this would not be an issue.

Every road vehicle sold today has a sim card, most for diagnostics, some for remote control.

Re: Norway reviews cybersecurity after remote-access feature found in Chinese buses

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why we invented the fine print. Not putting this information in the fine print is fraudulent behaviour

It was most likely in the specs from the beginning. You can't have busses roaming around with no way to turn them off remotely.

I’m pretty sure turning off the bus is something the bus driver can do. It’s not like buses were wildly roaming around before cellular networks were invented…

Re: Norway reviews cybersecurity after remote-access feature found in Chinese buses

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This is just stupid. All modern vehicles har been fully remote controllable for years.

100% false.

For obvious reasons, non-CBTC trains are not remotely controllable (CBTC essentially means "remotely driven"). It's all or nothing; either a safety system that inherently accepts the risk, or no way to remotely control the speed, short of fully stopping the train.

If modern cars have been fully remotely controllable for years, why can't police stop often-deadly car chases?

Ditto on air traffic control and small planes; many don't even have in-plane automatic pilots. AFAIK no ultralights ever do.

Most boats are not remotely controllable; even the large container ship that recently damaged a major US bridge didn't.

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