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Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by jon-wood »

tyleo wrote: post #2

I’d say overreaction. The real world is full of tradeoffs and I’ve seen people try to get minutia like this correct in convoluted contexts which actually broke the core application logic. Given the limited time we can spend on things, supporting proper plurality falls below some of my other UI priorities like proper accessibility settings. I don’t think plurality is bad, just low in the stack rank of things that matt…

If pluralisation of a status message in the UI is breaking core application logic then you've got bigger problems than the pluralisation code.

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by cjs_ac »

For non-technical users, the user interface is the program. To them, there's nothing beneath the shell. My last boss didn't like Macs because his PowerPoint presentations rendered differently on them compared to Windows. There are millions of real people with consequential positions in important organisations who think like this.

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by 1dom »

There's so, so many different reasons in the real world as to why/how details like that end up in front of the customer.

Is OP happy to work for Satan as long as he appears grammatically accurate, polite and concise?

Alternatively, OP is a nightmare to work with because every single other role in the company has to do things in exactly the way the engineers want, otherwise they're careless morons.

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by ghosty141 »

tyleo wrote: post #2

I’d say overreaction. The real world is full of tradeoffs and I’ve seen people try to get minutia like this correct in convoluted contexts which actually broke the core application logic. Given the limited time we can spend on things, supporting proper plurality falls below some of my other UI priorities like proper accessibility settings. I don’t think plurality is bad, just low in the stack rank of things that matt…

Especially once you get into i18n this becomes increasingly more complex for various reasons like different formats for translation programs etc.

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by cluckindan »

1dom wrote: post #13

There's so, so many different reasons in the real world as to why/how details like that end up in front of the customer. Is OP happy to work for Satan as long as he appears grammatically accurate, polite and concise? Alternatively, OP is a nightmare to work with because every single other role in the company has to do things in exactly the way the engineers want, otherwise they're careless morons.

Satan is very underappreciated as an employer.

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by 1dom »

cluckindan wrote: post #16
1dom wrote: post #13

There's so, so many different reasons in the real world as to why/how details like that end up in front of the customer. Is OP happy to work for Satan as long as he appears grammatically accurate, polite and concise? Alternatively, OP is a nightmare to work with because every single other role in the company has to do things in exactly the way the engineers want, otherwise they're careless morons.

Satan is very underappreciated as an employer.

I'm sure he pays well too!

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by skeeter2020 »

tyleo wrote: post #2

I’d say overreaction. The real world is full of tradeoffs and I’ve seen people try to get minutia like this correct in convoluted contexts which actually broke the core application logic. Given the limited time we can spend on things, supporting proper plurality falls below some of my other UI priorities like proper accessibility settings. I don’t think plurality is bad, just low in the stack rank of things that matt…

I agree; there's probably higher value UI work, or something that should be more important to you above this. Examples: Have you ever run your app at 500% in high contrast with no mouse or with a screen reader? What's the happy path for most popular workflows? How many layers bury them with options and edge cases? What language support are you missing?

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by mattlutze »

1dom wrote: post #13

There's so, so many different reasons in the real world as to why/how details like that end up in front of the customer. Is OP happy to work for Satan as long as he appears grammatically accurate, polite and concise? Alternatively, OP is a nightmare to work with because every single other role in the company has to do things in exactly the way the engineers want, otherwise they're careless morons.

OP is not being literal. Satire and the interpretation of it are important for a healthy and nuanced world view and discourse.

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by kachnuv_ocasek »

abraxas wrote: post #5

Number "two" in Polish (depending on context): dwa, dwoje, dwie, dwóch, dwiema, dwom, dwojga, dwojgu, dwójka, dwójki, dwójkę, dwójką, dwójce, dwójko So that's just my mother tongue. It think your problem is a bit more complex than (s).

Same argument applies. You, as the developer, always know in what context the text appears. Whether it's "dwa zdjęcia przesłane" or "dodano tagi do dwóch zdjęć".
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