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Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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It's weird how many people's perception of this type of behavior is shaped by the person sitting in the White House. EDIT: It's also weird how my comment is being perceived exclusively as criticizing the critics of this administration rather than criticizing the supporters of this overreach. My comment was intentional phrased very generally, if you think it is specifically about you, that reveals something about you.

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Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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post #3

It's weird how many people's perception of this type of behavior is shaped by the person sitting in the White House. EDIT: It's also weird how my comment is being perceived exclusively as criticizing the critics of this administration rather than criticizing the supporters of this overreach. My comment was intentional phrased very generally, if you think it is specifically about you, that reveals something about you.

Wouldn't it be weird if that didn't shape their perception? It's not surprising that people are less trusting when an authoritarian is in power.

But the assumptions should always be that one day someone like that could take power and gain access to that data.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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EU's recently rejected chat control looks like child's play compared to this. These are some Stasi methods that are going to destroy the US if implemented. Europe already went through creating dossier on citizens in the past, the next immediate step is always fascism. Nothing good comes out of fascism, as the history showed.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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How is this news, the usgov has been taking my biometrics for the past 5 years

Have they? They haven't taken mine.

Every time I fly from SFO, there’s a face-tracking camera that takes your photo after you stand up close to it. There’s definitely some sort of data harvesting there and there’s no opt out that I know about.

I also have Clear, which was voluntary but certainly collected my biometric data years ago.

I also have Global Entry, which has a similar scanning tech to point 1.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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post #3

It's weird how many people's perception of this type of behavior is shaped by the person sitting in the White House. EDIT: It's also weird how my comment is being perceived exclusively as criticizing the critics of this administration rather than criticizing the supporters of this overreach. My comment was intentional phrased very generally, if you think it is specifically about you, that reveals something about you.

It's also weird how people gatekeep resistance on the basis of their perception that it's motivated by the person sitting in the White House.

If people are ready to resist now, let's welcome them, rather than questioning whether their motives are related to some tangentially related disagreement.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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post #4

How is this news, the usgov has been taking my biometrics for the past 5 years

Have they? They haven't taken mine.

As a US citizen, you likely have your photo in a state or federal database somewhere from getting your ID or driver's license.

Depending on your job, background check history, or interactions with the police, your fingerprints might be in a database somewhere.

If you fly, your facial image/photograph/video is held by TSA and also as part of the REAL ID program.

So there are some biometrics that the government has of us, but clearly the article is describing a huge increase in not just the kind of biometric data collected, but also the kinds of people who would be required to give it up.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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Did you know that the State of California has a DNA sample from every person born in the state since 1983? It's required by law for the hospital to collect it and give it to the state.

... The concept of DNA sample collection existed in 1983?

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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post #3

It's weird how many people's perception of this type of behavior is shaped by the person sitting in the White House. EDIT: It's also weird how my comment is being perceived exclusively as criticizing the critics of this administration rather than criticizing the supporters of this overreach. My comment was intentional phrased very generally, if you think it is specifically about you, that reveals something about you.

Fwiw, I would be unhappy with the Biden and Obama administrations trying to do this as well. For me this has nothing to do with who's in the White House, it's an overreach plain and simple.

100%. Let’s not let partisanship distract us from the omni-presence of the military industrial complex and the authoritarian bent of everyone who’s been in power in the US over the last several decades. Dems will tinker around the edges to make it more palatable, but there’s still: black sites, torture, drone strikes, unjustified wars, installing of puppet governments in sovereign nations, abuse of the commons for private profit and an absolute hunger for every scrape of your data to monitor and manipulate you no matter who is in the White House.

If I have to choose between voting for pro-corporate neoliberalism or fascism 2.0, I’ll vote the former, but that’s basically just asking which speed you’d like quality of life to erode for the average person. I’d really like a couple more options on the ballot please.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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post #15

Did you know that the State of California has a DNA sample from every person born in the state since 1983? It's required by law for the hospital to collect it and give it to the state.

... The concept of DNA sample collection existed in 1983?

https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/tag/newborn-blood-spot-pr...
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