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Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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It's interesting to note that this doesn't actually discuss any funding details. Who, how much, when, how? The devil is always in the details.

Yea, this is just the "find money" side of things. We're figuring out the details of how to decide what/who to fund in parallel

Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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I don't agree with some points, but I share the feeling in terms of "failed promises". The fact that most well-known Rust crates are becoming huge bloat are becoming a problem to me, which is something that has been critized years again by the community itself. As an example, I still do not understand why simple HTTP crates require more than 50 to 70 dependencies to execute a simple GET call...

> As an example, I still do not understand why simple HTTP crates require more than 50 to 70 dependencies to execute a simple GET call...

This is what you get with package managers.

Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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> A programming language simpler than C++.. That made me chuckle because both are quite the behemoths, as I have previously said. If they promised this, it was a lie indeed.

Both are, indeed, and I don't know if this was ever promised, but Rust is way simpler than C++ (today, at least).

Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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I don't agree with some points, but I share the feeling in terms of "failed promises". The fact that most well-known Rust crates are becoming huge bloat are becoming a problem to me, which is something that has been critized years again by the community itself. As an example, I still do not understand why simple HTTP crates require more than 50 to 70 dependencies to execute a simple GET call...

I think it's clear to me that Rust needs to start admitting more into the STD to help with this and increase the consistency across the ecosystem.

Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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> non-political community "Non-political community" is an oxymoron, like "non-aquatic lake". Politics is the verb that communities do.

Non-political almost always means "accept the social status quo I am used to".

I think there is a reasonable argument that the default for a community with technical goals should be to accept social status quo conventions unless they conflict with the communities technical goals. But if the social default is "girls don't code and queers should hide" there is a reasonable counterargument that these conflict with the goal of making the technology (and community) available to everyone.

Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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> non-political community "Non-political community" is an oxymoron, like "non-aquatic lake". Politics is the verb that communities do.

> "Non-political community" is an oxymoron

No it's not.

I'm an LGBT person with a trans partner and I find many codes of conduct to be chastising and purposefully finger pointing to conservative people.

A lot of them are basically, "your religious teachings or cultural upbringing aren't welcome here"

I don't agree with religious texts, but that's what you're wagging in their face with some of the CoCs.

Leave it at "don't be an asshole". It's that simple.

The current political climate, I feel, is a direct reaction to this.

A politically neutral space wouldn't permit religious people to harass trans or LGBT people, but it also wouldn't give anyone latitude to throw stones the other way either.

CoCs are "you're not welcome here at all".

Another thing: you always see language and project logos modified to bear the rainbow, trans, and BLM colors. You never see anything supporting Asians, white people, men, or Christians. If you did this, you would be called out as a racist. Which is so ironic.

Let's just get along and work together. Maybe we'll find more agreements amongst ourselves that way instead of trying to divide everyone into camps.

Some progressives are going to get very pissed off at this comment, but I grew up and live in the South. You can (and often must) work with people you don't agree with. It's not impossible to be friends either. You might wind up changing their mind, and they might wind up making you more tolerant as well.

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