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The Mack Super Pumper was a locomotive engined fire fighter (2018)

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Re: The Mack Super Pumper was a locomotive engined fire fighter (2018)

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My dad worked on the Space Shuttle main engine program in the 80s. One of the things they built was the turbopump [0], which generated 23,000HP (and could drain your average home swimming pool in one minute).

Seeing the test firings of the pump was pretty amazing, draining one "swimming pool" and filling another in a minute.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-25#Turbopumps

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That "deltic" engine just for the water pumping is incredible, I'd never seen that cylinder layout before. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_Deltic

They're unique. Originally designed to power fast torpedo boats during WW2, three of these powerful and compact engines would churn out plenty of power for the boat up to 50 kt.

https://everythingaboutboats.org/napier-deltic/

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I have a question for folks who handle pumps regularly. Almost all pumps are made for water, or sewage. How do you identify if a pump is rated to handle liquid metal or hot fluids (heated chemicals, or contents under extreme pressure) I have never heard of a standard class of pumps for this....other than basically finding a manufacturer who specialized in these sort of pumps.

You're thinking of temperature and viscosity parameters.

Read the data sheets and look for those terms, or look for manufacturers of pumps that maximize both.

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post #3

That "deltic" engine just for the water pumping is incredible, I'd never seen that cylinder layout before. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_Deltic

They're unique. Originally designed to power fast torpedo boats during WW2, three of these powerful and compact engines would churn out plenty of power for the boat up to 50 kt. https://everythingaboutboats.org/napier-deltic/

They're still in use by our UK navy. Nine minesweepers still on active duty.

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I have a question for folks who handle pumps regularly. Almost all pumps are made for water, or sewage. How do you identify if a pump is rated to handle liquid metal or hot fluids (heated chemicals, or contents under extreme pressure) I have never heard of a standard class of pumps for this....other than basically finding a manufacturer who specialized in these sort of pumps.

Those are pretty extreme applications that require extremely specific pumps. You are very firmly in the "call for pricing" territory

Re: The Mack Super Pumper was a locomotive engined fire fighter (2018)

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There was a fire station we used to walk past when my little boy was about 2 years old. Often the fire trucks were out the front being cleaned. The fire fighters always let him sit in the cabin. Heaven for 2 year olds obsessed with trucks.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're unique. Originally designed to power fast torpedo boats during WW2, three of these powerful and compact engines would churn out plenty of power for the boat up to 50 kt. https://everythingaboutboats.org/napier-deltic/

They're still in use by our UK navy. Nine minesweepers still on active duty.

I just realised they re-engined them with cat engines in 2008. Pity.

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That "deltic" engine just for the water pumping is incredible, I'd never seen that cylinder layout before. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_Deltic

Napier was on the cutting edge of certain kinds of IC engines for a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_Sabre (1938).

Powered the absolute monster that was the Tempest (up to the Mk 2 - they did have reliability issues they never quite solved but 3000+HP out of an engine that weighs barely more than a tonne dry will do that)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Tempest

Was happy to see the name re-used for our upcoming fighter.

We also called the Eurofighter the Typhoon and the (WW2) Typhoon (also a Sabre engine) was the predecessor of the Tempest - it started as a re-wing of the Typhoon but enough changes where made to give it a new name.

Just a devastating superprop in its day.

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How do you extinguish an oil-well fire? Enter the "Big Wind" with two jet engines on a tank chassis. "The water is moving at a maximum rate of 220 gallons of water a second," https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15138374/stilling-the...

Tangentially related and recommended. Werner Herzog's film that also features longer sections on the fire fighting efforts on the oil fields. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lessons_of_Darkness

Someone just recommended this to me the other day!

I must also recommend the recently-deceased legend Sebastiao Salgado's photos from Kuwait oil fires.

https://publicdelivery.org/sebastiao-salgado-kuwait/

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