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Visible from space, Sudan's bloodied sands expose a massacre of thousands

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Re: Visible from space, Sudan's bloodied sands expose a massacre of thousands

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Sadly, yet another bloody chapter of the Abu Dhabi (al Nahyan) - Doha (al Thani) feud that has been going on since the 2011 coup attempt [0], which itself is part of a longer multi-generational blood feud going on between the royal families [4]. The Middle East, North Africa, Central Asia, and Balkans are all burning because of this saga [1].

The UAE backs the RSF [2] (formerly known as the Janjaweed of the Darfur Genocide), and Qatar supports the Sudanese Army [3]

[0] - https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/united-arab-emirates-pala...

[1] - https://lobelog.com/doha-and-abu-dhabis-incompatible-visions...

[2] - https://www.wsj.com/world/how-u-a-e-arms-bolstered-a-sudanes...

[3] - https://www.africaintelligence.com/eastern-africa-and-the-ho...

[4] - https://gulfif.org/changing-alignments-in-the-lower-gulf/

Re: Visible from space, Sudan's bloodied sands expose a massacre of thousands

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>I doubt we will hear "Death Death to the RSF" or demands to end the genocide in el-Fasher from the college kids and tik-tok influencers any time soon.

You're probably right. It's unfortunate that acts of genocide like the one ongoing in Gaza need to go viral on social media for many Westerners to even be aware of them, much less care.

Perhaps more effort should be put towards raising awareness of other genocides like the genocide in Gaza.

Re: Visible from space, Sudan's bloodied sands expose a massacre of thousands

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Whataboutism fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

The silence from the west on what's going on in Sudan is deafening. It's a completely fair question to ask why, when people are so vocal for Palestine? Why not Sudan?

Throwing out "whataboutism" every time someone dares ask a question like this is a fallacy in itself, intending to distract from the question of why genocide in places like Sudan are so thoroughly and utterly ignored and even buried.

Re: Visible from space, Sudan's bloodied sands expose a massacre of thousands

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"However, those European countries haven’t acknowledged or apologized for what they have done."

Not completely and not for everything, but largely it is at least recognized. I mean, I learned about it and how bad it all was in a ordinary european school. What you say implies it is like in turkey, where they don't tell students in school what happened in Armenia. Or like in china, where even the knowledge gets removed. (I think Japan also largely choose not to reevaluate its glorious bloody empire past)

So blaming every war in Africa on the colonial past is maybe not helpful, when there have been wars before european involvement. And especially here, to me it seems a inner muslim/arab war. Different factions backed by different arabic states. UAE and Quatar. What exactly is the european involvment here?

Re: Visible from space, Sudan's bloodied sands expose a massacre of thousands

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whataboutism fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

The silence from the west on what's going on in Sudan is deafening. It's a completely fair question to ask why, when people are so vocal for Palestine? Why not Sudan? Throwing out "whataboutism" every time someone dares ask a question like this is a fallacy in itself, intending to distract from the question of why genocide in places like Sudan are so thoroughly and utterly ignored and even buried.

I agree with your first paragraph but I am following the principle of having the conversation around this specific HN topic on this post.
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