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Amazon says it didn't cut people because of money. But because of 'culture'

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Re: Amazon says it didn't cut people because of money. But because of 'culture'

#11
> “We are committed to operating like the world’s largest startup, and … that means removing layers.”

I learned a long time ago that behaving like a startup is not a good thing, and I've specifically oriented my career towards working at companies that don't even want to pretend to imitate startup culture. I'm very happy in enterprise-land.

Re: Amazon says it didn't cut people because of money. But because of 'culture'

#12
One of the worst lies since "AGI".

Even most here on HN who are in the business of replacing humans with AI would agree that Amazon knows they are lying.

Must be close to a rats den working at Amazon's offices with over 200K+ employees in corporate to then look at them and then lay them off and say it's for "culture".

There's no reason for them to tell the truth, given its immensively profitable to keep lying with no costs at all.

If you decide to join Amazon after this, make sure you get a brain scan first.

Re: Amazon says it didn't cut people because of money. But because of 'culture'

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post #11

> “We are committed to operating like the world’s largest startup, and … that means removing layers.” I learned a long time ago that behaving like a startup is not a good thing, and I've specifically oriented my career towards working at companies that don't even want to pretend to imitate startup culture. I'm very happy in enterprise-land.

What are the aspects that you're looking for from enterprise-land

Re: Amazon says it didn't cut people because of money. But because of 'culture'

#18
post #11

> “We are committed to operating like the world’s largest startup, and … that means removing layers.” I learned a long time ago that behaving like a startup is not a good thing, and I've specifically oriented my career towards working at companies that don't even want to pretend to imitate startup culture. I'm very happy in enterprise-land.

At that scale, it’s the worst of both worlds.

You set the expectation that you can deliver at the pace of a lean startup, but every step of the way you are slowed down by a process or internal dependency that is operating like a fortune 100 company.

Large companies should just fund startups and acquire them when the product has shipped than try to create a culture where teams are expected to operate a speedboat that is towed by an oceanliner.

Re: Amazon says it didn't cut people because of money. But because of 'culture'

#20

> Jassy explained that as Amazon added headcount, locations and lines of business in recent years, “you end up with a lot more people than what you had before, and you end up with a lot more layers … sometimes without realizing it, you can weaken the ownership of the people that you have who are doing the actual work.” "And here's something else, Bob. I have eight different bosses right now." "I beg your pardon?" "Ei…

> you end up with a lot more people That's a funny way to describe deliberately wasting thousands of work hours screening, interviewing and hiring people they didn't need. It seems like those making these staffing decisions should be the first to go, yet that never seems to be the case.

Correct. CEO's layoff explanation indicates two things.

First, the people who made the hiring decision back then were wrong, since they seemingly hired a lot of people for unneeded roles.

Second, the people in charge now lack the vision or ideas on how to put 14,000 already-trained employees to good use on new projects, new products, etc.

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