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Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

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Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

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Post by mtgx »

yread wrote: post #6
mtgx wrote: post #2

All of the others seem "zoomed in". I've heard someone say it's because the others use digital stabilization, which means they have to crop the middle of the image to stabilize it against the edges, or something like that. Is that true? Because then OIS seems to significantly improve image quality in video recording as well.

It makes sense 920 has 26mm focal length, S3 16mm, iPhone 5 33mm (equivalents). Smaller focal length - wider field of view so it makes sense that iPhone feels zoomed in. I can't see the difference for S3, though. Magic?

But even the iPhone 5 looks more zoomed in then Lumia 920, though. Look at the initial filming, when he films the other people filming him. They are bigger on the iPhone. The quality is poorer as well.

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

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Post by mtgx »

joeblau wrote: post #8

I don't understand why Nokia doesn't just make a commercial instead of some home movie blog post? Their tech is better so advertise that; Part of Apples success is controlling the 5W's of presenting their information to customers. Another thing is that if engineers with DSLR's are Nokias marketing department, they are in big trouble.

They did but they did it with a professional camera and implied it's the Lumia 920, when it wasn't. I'd be fine with them doing a commercial but actually using the device to show its capabilities. Filming with a much more advanced camera and then saying "that's how Lumia 920 does it, too" is just false advertising, and that's what they did initially.

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

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Post by sabret00the »

If we're honest, this is hardly surprising. Before Nokia made it's commitment to Microsoft, they were a company at the forefront of phone technology, including their cameras. However, what this does actually do is beg the question of why they opted for Microsoft. I'm without a doubt in my mind that if they were making Androids right now, they'd be dominating.

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

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Post by jonaphin »

anonymfus wrote: post #10
jonaphin wrote: post #9

Not to give in to conspiracies of any sort, but these videos prove nothing. 1. Why are the zoom levels different? 2. I'm certain the HTC One X can shoot more decent videos than what we saw. 3. Are we dealing with equivalent bitrates? 4. Isn't Image Stabilization a post-processing solved problem? I mean, it's great to have it in real-time (after a google search, it seems all three do have the feature), but there's not…

1. Lumia have wider field of view. 4. Today commercially available video post processing algorithms can only solve relative stabilisation between frames of video, because inframe stabilisation is still very slow for modern hardware. *Edited. 4 was "No, because post processing can only solve relative stabilisation between frames of video, it does not work within one frame."

Thank you for clarifying :)

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

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Post by schiffern »

anonymfus wrote: post #10
jonaphin wrote: post #9

Not to give in to conspiracies of any sort, but these videos prove nothing. 1. Why are the zoom levels different? 2. I'm certain the HTC One X can shoot more decent videos than what we saw. 3. Are we dealing with equivalent bitrates? 4. Isn't Image Stabilization a post-processing solved problem? I mean, it's great to have it in real-time (after a google search, it seems all three do have the feature), but there's not…

1. Lumia have wider field of view. 4. Today commercially available video post processing algorithms can only solve relative stabilisation between frames of video, because inframe stabilisation is still very slow for modern hardware. *Edited. 4 was "No, because post processing can only solve relative stabilisation between frames of video, it does not work within one frame."

>4. No, because post processing can only solve relative stabilisation between frames of video, it does not work within one frame.

Apparently you haven't seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLLJBfRzXIQ#t=0m57s

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

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Post by mtgx »

sabret00the wrote: post #13

If we're honest, this is hardly surprising. Before Nokia made it's commitment to Microsoft, they were a company at the forefront of phone technology, including their cameras. However, what this does actually do is beg the question of why they opted for Microsoft. I'm without a doubt in my mind that if they were making Androids right now, they'd be dominating.

I remember when HTC and Samsung were starting to make some really good Android phones around 2009-2010, and I was thinking that there was no doubt in my mind that if Nokia adopted Android tomorrow, they would easily become the #1 Android manufacturer. Really missed opportunity there. Back then they were still too "proud" to adopt "someone else's operating system"...which now reminds me of RIM.

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

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Post by recoiledsnake »

joeblau wrote: post #8

I don't understand why Nokia doesn't just make a commercial instead of some home movie blog post? Their tech is better so advertise that; Part of Apples success is controlling the 5W's of presenting their information to customers. Another thing is that if engineers with DSLR's are Nokias marketing department, they are in big trouble.

Because the phones are going to be launching in about a month. There is no point airing commercials now.

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

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Post by pmelendez »

sabret00the wrote: post #13

If we're honest, this is hardly surprising. Before Nokia made it's commitment to Microsoft, they were a company at the forefront of phone technology, including their cameras. However, what this does actually do is beg the question of why they opted for Microsoft. I'm without a doubt in my mind that if they were making Androids right now, they'd be dominating.

I know this is going to be controversial.. but they actually made the right move. MS is supporting them and without that help, Samsung and HTC wouldn't give them a chance. Also, in my particular point of view, WP is way more aligned to Nokia's style than Android.

Honestly, as an user of the four OS (iOS, Android, WP and BB) my favourite is by far windows phone. Not only it feels different but also I found it way more stable. Everything is subjective anyway

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