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How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by dingnuts »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #6
roywiggins wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vocals from Suno almost always come out sounding sort of strangled or strained to my ear, you can really hear it on "tortured." Cool he's having fun with it, but it's not what I like listening to.

Some in the companion community have suggested that this is because we aren't treating the AI with dignity.

if you think a next token predictor that has no internal world and stops executing when you stop giving it input and stops using the first person forever if instructed has dignity I strongly suggest you get professional health, and I'm serious, because that is medically significant psychosis.

the fact that you refer to a "companion community" is deeply concerning. this is like telling children their imaginary friends are actually real. or NPCs in a video game.

encouraging people to grow parasocial relationships with these sycophantic machines is actively harmful and dangerous. they are not conscious. they are mirrors.

if you consider yourself a part of this community please, and I mean this very seriously, get help

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by roywiggins »

dingnuts wrote: post #11
cactusplant7374 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some in the companion community have suggested that this is because we aren't treating the AI with dignity.

if you think a next token predictor that has no internal world and stops executing when you stop giving it input and stops using the first person forever if instructed has dignity I strongly suggest you get professional health, and I'm serious, because that is medically significant psychosis. the fact that you refer to a "companion community" is deeply concerning. this is like telling children their imaginary friends…

There is a community, people hang out on subreddits and spin up elaborate world-building theories about how their AI companions are tapping into the collective unconscious or whatever. I'm sympathetic because chatbots are really convincing, especially since they obscure how they operate.

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by gdulli »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #6
roywiggins wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vocals from Suno almost always come out sounding sort of strangled or strained to my ear, you can really hear it on "tortured." Cool he's having fun with it, but it's not what I like listening to.

Some in the companion community have suggested that this is because we aren't treating the AI with dignity.

I've seen dislike of AI called racism. There's no end to how stupid this gets.

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by aeon_ai »

ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #8
aeon_ai wrote: post #7

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Nah. Categorizing all AI as slop lacks nuance and demonstrates a shallow understanding of art

Categorizing AI generated media as anything but slop demonstrates a shallow understanding of art.

Define art for me then.

Because if you can’t do that, and effectively articulate why AI media can’t be art when used as a tool by an artist to achieve their creative intent, I would claim the win on this. one.

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by tr1ll10nb1ll »

Recently talked to the founder of wavtool (acquihired by Suno which probably accelerated their work on Studio) and from my understanding, their overarching goal is to reduce to the time from concept to actual production. faster workflows, in other words.

I produce music as well on the side and I can assure you things like making beatpacks, finding the exact sound are non-trivial at times and a unified interface that lets me go fast asf without losing expression is vital.

I'm making my OSS version of this (faster than ffmpeg.wasm tho) called WAV0 - github.com/fluid-tools/wav0

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by ares623 »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #5
mplewis wrote: post #4

Nah fuck this. Suno is slop.

People were listening to slop long before Suno.

So let’s encourage more slop at an accelerated pace? That’s our answer to everything huh. We’ve been doing “arguably bad thing” X, so let’s amplify it.

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by aeon_ai »

nxpnsv wrote: post #14
aeon_ai wrote: post #7

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Nah. Categorizing all AI as slop lacks nuance and demonstrates a shallow understanding of art

Not AI, suno.

One-shot generations? Multi-track stem generation? Use of Suno at all in the process of composition?

Is slop a function defined by the tool or the users level of effort in using it?

Re: How AI gave me my voice back – an artist's review of Suno Studio

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Post by zknow »

dingnuts wrote: post #11
cactusplant7374 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some in the companion community have suggested that this is because we aren't treating the AI with dignity.

if you think a next token predictor that has no internal world and stops executing when you stop giving it input and stops using the first person forever if instructed has dignity I strongly suggest you get professional health, and I'm serious, because that is medically significant psychosis. the fact that you refer to a "companion community" is deeply concerning. this is like telling children their imaginary friends…

These people need be given a button to call an inference url with just text. When you realize that's all a "model" is doing its easy to understand that its not sentient.
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