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Re: Why I code as a CTO

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> I currently manage no direct reports and ship a lot of code. This is a wildly different status than almost all other people with this title. I’m glad this person still likes coding, and they seem to be great at it, but this role doesn’t match up to the title. This doesn’t really matter until he wants to switch jobs and realizes near zero CTO positions outside of this one company will require few meetings and zero m…

No it isn't. Lots of CTOs don't have reports.

Re: Why I code as a CTO

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post #12

> I currently manage no direct reports and ship a lot of code. This is a wildly different status than almost all other people with this title. I’m glad this person still likes coding, and they seem to be great at it, but this role doesn’t match up to the title. This doesn’t really matter until he wants to switch jobs and realizes near zero CTO positions outside of this one company will require few meetings and zero m…

No it isn't. Lots of CTOs don't have reports.

really? like who?

Re: Why I code as a CTO

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it isn't. Lots of CTOs don't have reports.

really? like who?

Both in my own personal direct experience and in 15 years of consulting, primarily for tech startups, the modal CTO I encountered had in reality a product manager role with a special title that was helpful in important pre-sales meetings --- and they did not tend to be the de facto VP/PM.

Re: Why I code as a CTO

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it isn't. Lots of CTOs don't have reports.

really? like who?

I've been at several companies that have a CTO and a Director of Engineering. The CTO sets the strategy, and the Director of Engineering handles the execution. In theory the Director "reports" to the CTO (I.e. is under in the org chart), but not necessarily. Sometimes the Director reports to the CEO, and/or takes a more collaborative role with the CTO.

Re: Why I code as a CTO

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> I currently manage no direct reports and ship a lot of code. This is a wildly different status than almost all other people with this title. I’m glad this person still likes coding, and they seem to be great at it, but this role doesn’t match up to the title. This doesn’t really matter until he wants to switch jobs and realizes near zero CTO positions outside of this one company will require few meetings and zero m…

No it isn't. Lots of CTOs don't have reports.

I have a terribly hard time understanding the effectiveness of a CTO who has no reports, especially in a technology company.

Re: Why I code as a CTO

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My journey has been quite similar (just a few more years of "unhappy John") and this approach is now very close to what I practice. I do have a few reports and run the R&D leadership team, I delegate as much as I can to my directors. (Besides being hands on where the organization needs it, I still regard the other part of my job to keep our org accountable, engineers inspired, and keeping the big picture in.)

For people who doubt this, I recommend "How to Build a Car" by Adrian Newey (CTO of Redbull Racing).

But to be clear - if you do coding as CTO only because "only you can run certain projects," part of your job should be to fix that first. You will still have the easiest time doing it, but you should always have (many) others in position to run innovation projects, work with customers etc.

Re: Why I code as a CTO

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Possibly unpopular, but this is an interesting topic, so I'll post my counterpoint. The question is: what are you not doing that is in the list of CTO responsibilities because you're coding? One of the reasons stated why you do this is "because you enjoy it", and on the list of reasons you need to do it is there are only a handful of people in the org that can ship new product surface area. That's...concerning. That…

Again, implies there is such a thing as a "list of CTO responsibilities". Companies can decide to give their CTO x or y portfolio, but by the time a company reaches the point where titles matter, it's hard to think of an intrinsically "CTO" responsibility that isn't covered by a VP/E or VP/PM. The one thing I can think of is "organization-wide architecture oversight", which is a pretty toxic role to assign.

In orgs where the CTO does a bunch of stuff, I think it usually makes more sense to think of them as a VP/E with a different-shaped hat (or a VP/PM).

There's definitely an interesting article to write about the VP/E who still codes!

Re: Why I code as a CTO

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it isn't. Lots of CTOs don't have reports.

I have a terribly hard time understanding the effectiveness of a CTO who has no reports, especially in a technology company.

What is it that you think a CTO does? There isn't a standard answer to this question.

Re: Why I code as a CTO

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I worked with plenty of founders like this - they carry a C level title, but never stop being just an engineer or sales guy or designer.

That’s all fine when you have no employees - C titles are bullshit when it’s just two bros in a dorm - but it invariably hurts the company prospects as the team grows.

The common hack is hiring a “VP of Eng” to take care of the actual C-level work.

Mind you, there’s absolutely nothing wrong in wanting to be the guy who sits in a corner and codes. Just don’t call it “leadership” or “chief” anything, since you’re sitting in a role and not acting the part.

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