MinIO was already before tricky because their interpretation of the AGPL is way to broad.
Do you have a link? I want to read more about that. Did they interpret any use as deriving from minio?
MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
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Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
#12It's an Open Source project - I don't understand what people are complaining about. Noone is entitled to receive free Docker images. I'm sure if there is enough demand, someone else who is trustworthy will step up and automate building them.
What I'd like to complain about instead is the pricing page on the Min.io webpage - it doesn't list any pricing. Looking at https://cloudian.com/blog/minios-ui-removal-leaves-organizat... it seems the prices are not cheap at all (minimum of $96,000 per year). Note that Cloudian is a competitor offering a closed-source product.
Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
#13Not a full replacement but there is Garage, which was quite well received in other HN threads. https://git.deuxfleurs.fr/Deuxfleurs/garage
Can vouch for it as an adequate self-hostable option. It has some missing features, compared to Minio, and is less compatible but works for most applications.
Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
#14MinIO was already before tricky because their interpretation of the AGPL is way to broad.
Do you have a link? I want to read more about that. Did they interpret any use as deriving from minio?
They changed their public guidance at this point, but you can still find references to their approach to AGPL quoted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35328316
> "When MinIO is linked to a larger software stack in any form, including statically, dynamically, pipes, or containerized and invoked remotely, the AGPL v3 applies to your use. What triggers the AGPL v3 obligations is the exchanging data between the larger stack and MinIO."
Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
#15Is there a fork already?
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#16Is there a fork already?
What for? The code hasn't changed, it's AGPL-3.0. They just don't release their own binaries or docker images anymore.
Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
#17Not a full replacement but there is Garage, which was quite well received in other HN threads. https://git.deuxfleurs.fr/Deuxfleurs/garage
Can vouch for it as an adequate self-hostable option. It has some missing features, compared to Minio, and is less compatible but works for most applications.
could you elaborate on this? we're looking at moving off cloudflare r2 in the somewhat near future and garage is on our short-list
Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
#18While not notifying of the change earlier is annoying, I also don't see anywhere stated that they're obligated to provide services in addition to just providing me the source. Moreover the build-instructions don't seem complicated at all, anyone already extracting value from this should be capable of pulling the source and keep on running with it.
Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
#19MinIO was already before tricky because their interpretation of the AGPL is way to broad.
I like the GPL it has given us a lot.
I am guessing here but I do understand why they want people to open source the management code of minio and in some cases how it is integrated into a product. I understand that AGPL might not be written for these requirements but I think it is time for a new such license.
If it is part of a SaaS product that is sold I can definitely understand why this is important.
Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
#20Keep in mind this is the same project that removed all useful functionality from the included web UI in the community edition with the excuse that it was too much effort to maintain. This is another case of VC-funded companies pulling up the ladder behind themselves.
Is it an excuse? Maintaining code costs money, and the previous versions are provided under the license, and you're free to modify it, pull selective patches and maintain them yourself. While It'd be convenient if the license was a promise to develop and maintain features for free in perpetuity, it just isn't.
I run into this in non-company backed open source projects all the time too. Some maintainer gets burned out or non-interested and all they're rewarded is people with pitchforks because they thought there were some sort of obligations to provide free updates and suppport