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Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by brazukadev » Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 10:16 PM UTC

Narciss wrote: post #6

I love making AI music. Sometimes I freestyle rap over instrumentals that I’ve created with AI, record myself and then use that recording to create an AI song. Some of the songs I really love, like this one: https://suno.com/s/o4oyu5Eq7nMdQyzK There’d be more to say - but of course, creating songs without regard to their quality or your input in them is slop that shouldn’t be shared.

Lots of people love making them, almost nobody likes listen to them so you are the audience of the app you use to create it, not a creator.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by rchaud » Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 10:18 PM UTC

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Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by rchaud » Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 10:20 PM UTC

Spotify's biggest enemy are the record labels that they have to pay license fees to. Slowly ramp up the AI slop while ramping down the label-owned material and hope subscribers don't notice. It's a play that worked for Netflix, which used to have every major show a decade ago and is now majority mass-produced Netflix Original slop.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by matesz » Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 10:24 PM UTC

Tangent to this, some AI software is good for to experimentation. Here is an excellent example - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=alb_ZFHVXCU

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by randycupertino » Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 10:50 PM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #13

Spotify's biggest enemy are the record labels that they have to pay license fees to. Slowly ramp up the AI slop while ramping down the label-owned material and hope subscribers don't notice. It's a play that worked for Netflix, which used to have every major show a decade ago and is now majority mass-produced Netflix Original slop.

I noticed music in TV shows is AI slop so they don't have to pay licensing fees lately as well. I was watching Unsolved the series about the Notorious BIG and Tupac murders a few weeks ago and in one of the club scenes a "Biggie" song that I'd never heard of was playing in the background, I wasn't familiar with that song so I googled it and it was an ai Biggie inspired recreation, not one of his actual songs.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by rhetocj23 » Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 10:57 PM UTC

brazukadev wrote: post #11

Narciss wrote: post #6

I love making AI music. Sometimes I freestyle rap over instrumentals that I’ve created with AI, record myself and then use that recording to create an AI song. Some of the songs I really love, like this one: https://suno.com/s/o4oyu5Eq7nMdQyzK There’d be more to say - but of course, creating songs without regard to their quality or your input in them is slop that shouldn’t be shared.

Lots of people love making them, almost nobody likes listen to them so you are the audience of the app you use to create it, not a creator.

And theres nothing wrong with that. The issue is people like Altman thinking creativity et al is just a formulaic mish-mash of what exists and is not as difficult. Like yeah ok mate....

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by rhetocj23 » Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 10:58 PM UTC

WXLCKNO wrote: post #9

jsheard wrote: post #4

The same thing is happening on YouTube, my recs are stuffed full of obviously AI generated music compilations lately. It's obvious from the volume those channels are posting (often ~3 hours of "new" music every single day) that little to no curation is happening, it's just elemental slop straight from the firehose.

Agreed, on YouTube the AI slop music has been trending even more. I hadn't experienced it on Spotify however and only last month they had stated that AI music would be tagged as such.

My personal consumption of YT has dropped pretty sharply - I only go on there for specific content that I personally pick out myself. The recommendations have become really bad progressively IME over the past 2 years.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by yndoendo » Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 10:59 PM UTC

AI slop is starting to remind me of Atari in the early 80s that lead up to the video game crash of 1983. Content saturation of the lowest form in quality pushed to make money.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by CharlesW » Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 11:08 PM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #13

Spotify's biggest enemy are the record labels that they have to pay license fees to. Slowly ramp up the AI slop while ramping down the label-owned material and hope subscribers don't notice. It's a play that worked for Netflix, which used to have every major show a decade ago and is now majority mass-produced Netflix Original slop.

> Spotify's biggest enemy are the record labels that they have to pay license fees to.

Spotify's biggest enemy is Spotify. Apple Music doesn't have this problem.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by rchaud » Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 11:16 PM UTC

CharlesW wrote: post #19

rchaud wrote: post #13

Spotify's biggest enemy are the record labels that they have to pay license fees to. Slowly ramp up the AI slop while ramping down the label-owned material and hope subscribers don't notice. It's a play that worked for Netflix, which used to have every major show a decade ago and is now majority mass-produced Netflix Original slop.

> Spotify's biggest enemy are the record labels that they have to pay license fees to. Spotify's biggest enemy is Spotify. Apple Music doesn't have this problem.

Apple Music isn't a solo business and doesn't report its figures publicly, so it's not known if its margins would be sustainable if it weren't anchored to its much bigger Software and Services unit, which itself is anchored to an even bigger hardware sales unit.