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Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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The Firefox Wikipedia page states: "Initial release November 9, 2004; 7 years ago" [1] Maybe they're referring to the 1.0 release? I do remember using Firefox way earlier than that, it must have been 2000 or 2001. I guess those were 0.x releases. Wikipedia doesn't seem to say anything about that. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox

Datestamp here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/phoenix/releases/0.1/

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

#12
10 years ago the browser market was very different. ie dominant and many sites (banking in particular) "ie only". Mac had a version of ie and linux as a web surfing platform was wanting.

Firefox has been a good thing.

for those using firefox, the browser has more information.

go to the address about:mozilla

Maybe "information" is a stretch, but its fun.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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post #9

The Firefox Wikipedia page states: "Initial release November 9, 2004; 7 years ago" [1] Maybe they're referring to the 1.0 release? I do remember using Firefox way earlier than that, it must have been 2000 or 2001. I guess those were 0.x releases. Wikipedia doesn't seem to say anything about that. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox

A while back I asked about this for another piece of software I work on, and was told that in general, Wikipedia preferred to use the date of the 1.0 release. Though looking at some other articles, it seems this is inconsistently applied at best.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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post #2

Early Firefox felt really responsive and it was more functional and safe than IE. What happened? I still use it, but I definitely don't feel the same about it.

I was a big fan of Phoenix. What bothers me about modern Firefox is forced updates combined with surprise browser resets that break plug-ins and delete settings data. A few more of these and I'll finally have to switch 100% to Chromium (except for site testing.)

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

#15
post #9

The Firefox Wikipedia page states: "Initial release November 9, 2004; 7 years ago" [1] Maybe they're referring to the 1.0 release? I do remember using Firefox way earlier than that, it must have been 2000 or 2001. I guess those were 0.x releases. Wikipedia doesn't seem to say anything about that. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox

yes, that's 1.0 release. still available here ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/1.0/

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

#16
post #9

The Firefox Wikipedia page states: "Initial release November 9, 2004; 7 years ago" [1] Maybe they're referring to the 1.0 release? I do remember using Firefox way earlier than that, it must have been 2000 or 2001. I guess those were 0.x releases. Wikipedia doesn't seem to say anything about that. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox

Yes, I'm pretty sure I was using Firefox 0.7 in 2003 or early 2004, so that November date must be about 1.0 release. EDIT: It was called Firebird back then, too

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Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

#17

10 years ago the browser market was very different. ie dominant and many sites (banking in particular) "ie only". Mac had a version of ie and linux as a web surfing platform was wanting. Firefox has been a good thing. for those using firefox, the browser has more information. go to the address about:mozilla Maybe "information" is a stretch, but its fun.

A little bit more than 10 years ago there was IE on Unix.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX)

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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post #2

Early Firefox felt really responsive and it was more functional and safe than IE. What happened? I still use it, but I definitely don't feel the same about it.

> What happened? I still use it, but I definitely don't feel the same about it.

People stopped using text and images, and moved onto vast quantities of active content. Look at how much data is shifted for your couple of sentences.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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post #14
post #2

Early Firefox felt really responsive and it was more functional and safe than IE. What happened? I still use it, but I definitely don't feel the same about it.

I was a big fan of Phoenix. What bothers me about modern Firefox is forced updates combined with surprise browser resets that break plug-ins and delete settings data. A few more of these and I'll finally have to switch 100% to Chromium (except for site testing.)

Forced updates? Firefox has the usual set of update options, from automated and invisible to completely manual: http://i.imgur.com/eh84n.png

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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>You said this is a lean, lightweight browser, but it's 8MB! I laugh at your silly lies!

>Take it easy, sport. Phoenix has many files that override those in Mozilla, but it also has a new set of files. These files render a ton of files in Mozilla unnecessary, but we haven't yet stopped packaging the old files. It also still contains the modern theme and all the composer UI. In short, we haven't done any work yet to minimize the size, but we expect to be able to hit 6MB with a little work.

Things have changed quite a bit.

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