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4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence

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Is there a solution where we can compel parental control to be enabled by default on kids phones?

That would seem to be least intrusive option.

Using the internet in the UK/EU is such a horrible experience, every cookie pop-up is a reminder how badly thought out these rules are.

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#13

Is there a solution where we can compel parental control to be enabled by default on kids phones? That would seem to be least intrusive option. Using the internet in the UK/EU is such a horrible experience, every cookie pop-up is a reminder how badly thought out these rules are.

I hate that the internet is being destroyed in the name of iPad kids

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post #10

>The way we protect British kids from the Internet is to make better and more capable Britons, rather than to try and kidproof the entire internet. If only it were that easy. For me as a parent, my approach is to implement a "Great personal firewall" - that is, internet restrictions that decrease over time as they mature, and starting with essentially zero access. Unfortunately, it's probably doomed to fail as other…

I have thought about this for a really, really long time. The conclusion is, it's a service problem, not a howto-block problem kid-friendly content is under supplied and often bad maintained. To quote GabeN: Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem

How much would be enough supply, in your opinion? Because there is a lot, there is no shortage.

But it's not forbidden or hidden away, so kids aren't curious about it.

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>The way we protect British kids from the Internet is to make better and more capable Britons, rather than to try and kidproof the entire internet. If only it were that easy. For me as a parent, my approach is to implement a "Great personal firewall" - that is, internet restrictions that decrease over time as they mature, and starting with essentially zero access. Unfortunately, it's probably doomed to fail as other…

Okay, but just blocking content isn't much better than being unengaged, in the long term. They will get exposed anyway, if only from a friend (whose parents are unengaged and lazy) who has no restrictions on their phone. The important thing is to teach and train media skills. Teaching an understanding that comment sections are cesspools and amplify negative feedback. Teaching that people flame because it's so much easier than keeping silent, or putting in the thought to say something useful. Teaching that there are truly horrendous things on the Internet.

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Is there a solution where we can compel parental control to be enabled by default on kids phones? That would seem to be least intrusive option. Using the internet in the UK/EU is such a horrible experience, every cookie pop-up is a reminder how badly thought out these rules are.

Come to think of it, parental control would be a neat application for something like Apple Intelligence. A local system service that is "trustworthy enough" to monitor everything on screen, and written content too.

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post #4

>The way we protect British kids from the Internet is to make better and more capable Britons, rather than to try and kidproof the entire internet. If only it were that easy. For me as a parent, my approach is to implement a "Great personal firewall" - that is, internet restrictions that decrease over time as they mature, and starting with essentially zero access. Unfortunately, it's probably doomed to fail as other…

Same problem. Tried to balance some kind of freedom with limitations but it just didn't work. Then I found discord, read through some chats... Now it's just outright forbidden to have anything with a chat. And no Internet. The problem is that other 10 year old have mobiles, free PC access, etc, so there constant peer pressure.

Exactly, plus there's free, mostly unrestricted wifi everywhere. If your child has some pocket or birthday money they can freely spend, they can walk into an electronics store, buy a cheap smartphone or tablet and have unrestricted access.

At home measures are at best a delay, not a fix. What you also have to do is actually communicate with your child. If you're strict about what they can and cannot do on the internet, they will feel shame for doing it anyway, which may also mean they would be too ashamed to talk to their parents if for example they are getting groomed online.

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#18

Is there a solution where we can compel parental control to be enabled by default on kids phones? That would seem to be least intrusive option. Using the internet in the UK/EU is such a horrible experience, every cookie pop-up is a reminder how badly thought out these rules are.

It's very easy to make websites without needing cookie popups in EU/UK. Every cookie popup is a reminder of how stale the thinking around tracking and data sharing is!

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Is there a solution where we can compel parental control to be enabled by default on kids phones? That would seem to be least intrusive option. Using the internet in the UK/EU is such a horrible experience, every cookie pop-up is a reminder how badly thought out these rules are.

Come to think of it, parental control would be a neat application for something like Apple Intelligence. A local system service that is "trustworthy enough" to monitor everything on screen, and written content too.

This would enable/catalyze an order of magnitude more child abuse than anything that can happen on the worst cesspits of the internet.

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post #7

>The way we protect British kids from the Internet is to make better and more capable Britons, rather than to try and kidproof the entire internet. If only it were that easy. For me as a parent, my approach is to implement a "Great personal firewall" - that is, internet restrictions that decrease over time as they mature, and starting with essentially zero access. Unfortunately, it's probably doomed to fail as other…

If the government wanted to do something it would enforce optional controls for the bill payer, and provide decent training (via videos and in person in libraries) on how to use parental controls. I tried setting up parental controls on Fortnite and it was a nightmare, having threats multiple accounts with multiple providers, it felt very much designed to force people to go “ahh forget it”.

> it would enforce optional controls for the bill payer,

They do; in the UK, if you want to have access to porn, you need to tell your ISP and they will unblock it.

Of course, that's a game of whack-a-mole because you can render porn in Minecraft servers or join one of many communities on Whatsapp or Discord if needs be. It mainly blocks the well-known bigger porn sites.

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