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Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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Re: Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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Post by pixl97 »

zdragnar wrote: post #8
hamdingers wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The California housing crisis is a result of restrictive local policy preventing housing starts, not a shortage of materials.

Aren't there a lot of people in the Palisades still waiting for permits to rebuild from the fires almost a year ago? It's utterly absurd looking from the outside that officials are claiming the permits are being "fast tracked" even now.

I mean, it was 16,000-18,000 homes that were destroyed? That's a hell of a lot when you consider that all the other new builds are still in the queue to be permitted too.

Re: Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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Post by pixl97 »

hopelite wrote: post #5
hamdingers wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The California housing crisis is a result of restrictive local policy preventing housing starts, not a shortage of materials.

These are not hard things to understand or solve, it's just that the majority of people don't want to understand them or face reality and the politicians will always serve up these kinds of con artist lies to placate people. You cannot add ~60 million foreign national people to the US population in the last 25 years without severely impacting the housing situation when the USA has only built 1.1 million housing units…

> They are mutually exclusive things.

Source: You made it up.

Being closer to where the things are so you can walk significantly drops the amount of fuel needed for transportation and opens up public transportation as a workable option.

> USA has only built 1.1 million housing units on average over that period;

That's a government issue, not a practical one. How many housing units did China build in that same amount of time?

Re: Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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Post by greesil »

zdragnar wrote: post #8
hamdingers wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The California housing crisis is a result of restrictive local policy preventing housing starts, not a shortage of materials.

Aren't there a lot of people in the Palisades still waiting for permits to rebuild from the fires almost a year ago? It's utterly absurd looking from the outside that officials are claiming the permits are being "fast tracked" even now.

I bought some furniture from a guy in Ben Lomond and he told me that after the CZU fires, permitting was the bottleneck for most folks, to the point that even four years after the fires some people still were waiting. It's insane. IMO the bottleneck here is likely staffing. If someone wanted to streamline this they'd actually allocate some emergency funds statewide for this.

Re: Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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Post by wewewedxfgdf »

It's all just to help the property investors - the mom and pop landlords, the mega corporate landlords.

"If we, your landlords, own a LOT more housing, surely you can see how that will trickle down to YOU eventually owning a house. It's obvious isn't it? Our goal as investors is to build so many houses that prices will crash and everyone will be able to afford a house to live in. That's what we deeply want for all, and that's why we need to end zoning laws."

Re: Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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Post by troad »

I'm not intimately familiar with Californian zoning, but I have to say, all this talk of the 'seventh Regional Housing Needs Assessment cycle' reminded me of the Five Year Plans used in socialist countries.

I wish the people of California the best of luck exceeding dwelling quotas in the upcoming seventh cycle! :P

Edit: I forgot how sensitive people can be to the word 'socialism'. I am not trying imply - with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer - that California is the Soviet Union. I am just genuinely amused by the language being used, speaking as someone with family history of living under socialism.

Re: Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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Post by cyberax »

ecshafer wrote: post #4

SB79 is a great step forward for California. Hopefully other states implement similar (and more aggressive) bills in their states. My dream world would see an elimination of local zoning as we do in the US, and a move to a zoning system more like the Japanese use. I would also love to see states adopt a Land-Value Tax to help incentivize development. Similar to SB79 I have always hoped for a bill that enforced someth…

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Re: Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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Post by epistasis »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #15

It's all just to help the property investors - the mom and pop landlords, the mega corporate landlords. "If we, your landlords, own a LOT more housing, surely you can see how that will trickle down to YOU eventually owning a house. It's obvious isn't it? Our goal as investors is to build so many houses that prices will crash and everyone will be able to afford a house to live in. That's what we deeply want for all, a…

When people have a new home to live in, it's a huge help to them.

There's this weird tendency to treat people in new housing as not people, as non humans.

In reality we have a massive housing shortage, and tons of people living in crowded situations, and massive displacement of the working class out of California.

All those people exist, are real, and are helped massively by new housing. One doesn't have to own a home to be a human with needs.

Re: Everything you need to know about California’s SB 79

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Post by mothballed »

ecshafer wrote: post #4

SB79 is a great step forward for California. Hopefully other states implement similar (and more aggressive) bills in their states. My dream world would see an elimination of local zoning as we do in the US, and a move to a zoning system more like the Japanese use. I would also love to see states adopt a Land-Value Tax to help incentivize development. Similar to SB79 I have always hoped for a bill that enforced someth…

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