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Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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The point is that it's all just an excuse. So long as the app store is your only alternative they can charge 30% and get away with it, and they'll say whatever you want to hear so long as it lets them continue to do that.

They don't really give a shit about you, they just want your money.

Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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I don't think Google has handled Android particularly well, but you have to be on some 1990s Netscape kool-aid to think that the web is or should be "the primary way for users to experience computing". Computing is just one kind of online service, and despite decades of effort to attempt to force-fit all applications into a browser, sometimes just a damn program that runs natively on the CPU is a much better fit for…

> despite decades of effort to attempt to force-fit all applications into a browser, sometimes just a damn program that runs natively on the CPU is a much better fit for the task

WebAssembly will run natively if ECMAScript is holding you back.

While it's still on a VM, so is Java, and that's the only mainstream game in town for "native" Android apps.

It'd be exciting to see what the web could be if Apple didn't spend decades dragging their heels implementing standards for progressive web apps (PWAs) because they know it'll cut into their app store gravy train.

Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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When I moved to iPhones a few years back (death of Windows Mobile, and I wasn't suffering Android again, see every reason under the sun why), I set some really hard limits on not being in the ecosystem. It's a good phone, but I won't buy paid apps, do not accessorize beyond a case. Everything I use tends to just be client apps for things I do on the web at a desk.

(Apparently a few years ago was... like six years. Dang the base model iPhone 11 got me really far.)

Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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Completely correct. The only way to ensure this doesn't happen is to criminalise device manufacturers being in charge of what software runs on their devices.

Sounds like a right to repair argument. It will lose. Try putting linux on a windows-10 laptop. That BIOS is nailed down hard. It can be done but its a right PITA

Can you elaborate? I bought a ThinkPad early this year. It probably had Windows 11 (didn't check, wiped it immediately) and it works fine?

I don't doubt that there are laptops where it is hard, but I would love to hear some examples and in what way the UEFI firmware is nailed down such that you cannot install Linux?

Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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Completely correct. The only way to ensure this doesn't happen is to criminalise device manufacturers being in charge of what software runs on their devices.

Sounds like a right to repair argument. It will lose. Try putting linux on a windows-10 laptop. That BIOS is nailed down hard. It can be done but its a right PITA

It's easy to put Linux on a Windows 10 laptop. You must be holding it wrong.

Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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When I moved to iPhones a few years back (death of Windows Mobile, and I wasn't suffering Android again, see every reason under the sun why), I set some really hard limits on not being in the ecosystem. It's a good phone, but I won't buy paid apps, do not accessorize beyond a case. Everything I use tends to just be client apps for things I do on the web at a desk. (Apparently a few years ago was... like six years. Da…

Same. I switched from Windows to macOS three years ago, and I tried my best to only use cross-platform softwares (or none at all, in many cases where websites suffice). Thanks to Electron many apps work on both Windows and macOS nowadays.
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