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Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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> After sending the messages, Hershowitz declared his comments “off the record,” which requires both parties to agree to the terms in advance. TechCrunch is publishing the responses as there was no agreement made What a failure for a spokesperson.

More like a failure on TechCrunch. There is an implied agreement and violating it will result in a flat refusal to talk outside of prepared press releases.

This isn't good journalism and should not be celebrated.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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> After sending the messages, Hershowitz declared his comments “off the record,” which requires both parties to agree to the terms in advance. TechCrunch is publishing the responses as there was no agreement made What a failure for a spokesperson.

More like a failure on TechCrunch. There is an implied agreement and violating it will result in a flat refusal to talk outside of prepared press releases. This isn't good journalism and should not be celebrated.

> There is an implied agreement

The implied agreement is that everything is on the record unless explicitly agreed otherwise beforehand.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

It’s an Israeli company - they probably consider their work a matter of national security and get along just fine with that

Well I’m sure the equivalent exists in most nations

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

I guess it is like the scammers working in call centers and building RAT:s. They surely must have a level of sociopathy greater than the average person.

The scammers I can imagine. They’re more in the “thieves” category. Some break into houses, others trick people virtually. It’s not cool but I can imagine their motivation.

The “develops weaponised software exploits” is not clear for me. Maybe it’s the same kind of mindset that lets people design and build weapons and bombs and such?

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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> After sending the messages, Hershowitz declared his comments “off the record,” which requires both parties to agree to the terms in advance. TechCrunch is publishing the responses as there was no agreement made What a failure for a spokesperson.

More like a failure on TechCrunch. There is an implied agreement and violating it will result in a flat refusal to talk outside of prepared press releases. This isn't good journalism and should not be celebrated.

Oh, did the poor spyware maker get their expectation of privacy violated?

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

They tell themselves stories about "if free market did not want it it would not exist" or better us than them

Like cancer or heroin addiction. If it exists, it's good and justified. We should really embrace everything <3

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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Time to start turning your networks off when not in use

Time to get out of there, before they build walls to keep people inside .

The covid vaccination digital passports almost took off. People loved that it was in their smartphone.

Re: Spyware maker NSO Group confirms acquisition by US investors

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I always wondered how the software people who work in places like this live with themselves. Is it some sort of “enough money can make me forget and look myself in the mirror” situation?

There are lots of justifications. It's the same as why people can be soldiers or build missiles and still sleep at night: you believe (or at least tell yourself) that you're stopping bad people.

There are good applications of these tools. If you can hack the phones of a terrorist organization, you can find out about attacks before they happen and stop them. If you can extract data off of locked computers, you can help win convictions that wouldn't otherwise be possible against people who do truly awful things.

The question, of course, is whether these good applications outweigh the misuse, but that's where it gets murky in a hurry. Individual researchers at these privately owned "boutique" exploit companies (to my knowledge) tend not to know the nitty gritty details of how their work is used out in the world unless it gets caught and dissected online. The more reputable western companies sell only to "democratic" governments which are political allies, but that only goes so far as misuse and abuse is always a risk (not to mention the shaky nature of...certain... western democracies).

At the end of the day, you really just have to hope your work is being used to target terrorists and not journalists. The money obviously makes it easier, but it's not completely disingenuous of the people who work there to believe they're doing good.

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