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Tangled, a Git collaboration platform built on atproto

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Re: Tangled, a Git collaboration platform built on atproto

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Github is free and decentralization isn't.

The whole point of the submission here is that that's no longer true?

Sure, you can mooch off their centralized server for a while. In an actually decentralized network there have to be multiple servers which cost money to run and that money is never recouped.

Re: Tangled, a Git collaboration platform built on atproto

#13

I really like the idea of more decentralized git collaboration. What do people think are the biggest blockers to adoption in this space? Having to run a server or manage some kind of private keys? Is it purely network effect?

Tangled very nicely gets rid of the having to run a server problem, yet still gives you a sovereign platform for doing git from. Truly divine. The barrier is largely that Tangled is so new. People don't know about it. People don't know what Bsky & the Personal Data Server offer or they haven't been enticed out of the zero energy local minima. There's some need for more features. For more tangled dev. Ideally for alte…

Does Tangled offer any solutions or suggestions for backing up data stored on the Knots?

Re: Tangled, a Git collaboration platform built on atproto

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post #5

I really like the idea of more decentralized git collaboration. What do people think are the biggest blockers to adoption in this space? Having to run a server or manage some kind of private keys? Is it purely network effect?

Github is free and decentralization isn't.

git is. GitHub notsomuch.

Re: Tangled, a Git collaboration platform built on atproto

#15
post #8

This is interesting, what does it give that hosted git doesn't?

The fact that all the data is open means not only that you could plausibly exit to other providers and keep all your projects data, (issues, prs, etc), but also that it's dramatically easier to build other tools that work on that same data. Triage, labelers, bots, etc, I know these are all possible on GitHub today with their API, but I think the programming model of ATProto removes a lot of friction in building and c…

I think there is a sort of thing built on top of Git where the wiki and issues are actually part of the repo itself, I forget the name, a bit like the Fossil SCM.

Re: Tangled, a Git collaboration platform built on atproto

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole point of the submission here is that that's no longer true?

Sure, you can mooch off their centralized server for a while. In an actually decentralized network there have to be multiple servers which cost money to run and that money is never recouped.

Tangled & other folks run their own AppServers for doing Tangled views of the network. Those aren't insanely expensive by any measure.

Many of the people on Tangled especially host their own Personal Data Service themself. It's fantastically cheap.

This seems like you either don't know much or you are super super cheapening out on credit. Fear uncertainty & Doubt is a low motive.

Re: Tangled, a Git collaboration platform built on atproto

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tangled very nicely gets rid of the having to run a server problem, yet still gives you a sovereign platform for doing git from. Truly divine. The barrier is largely that Tangled is so new. People don't know about it. People don't know what Bsky & the Personal Data Server offer or they haven't been enticed out of the zero energy local minima. There's some need for more features. For more tangled dev. Ideally for alte…

Does Tangled offer any solutions or suggestions for backing up data stored on the Knots?

I mean you can self host your own knot if you want, so it's at bare minimum possible to back it up if you're doing that

Re: Tangled, a Git collaboration platform built on atproto

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole point of the submission here is that that's no longer true?

Sure, you can mooch off their centralized server for a while. In an actually decentralized network there have to be multiple servers which cost money to run and that money is never recouped.

After learning about ActivityPub and ATProto, people that talk about them literally cannot agree on what decentralized means.
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