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Kurt Got Got

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Re: Kurt Got Got

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Ever since I almost got phished (wasn't looking closely enough at the domain to notice a little stress mark over the "s" in the domain name, thankfully I was using a hardware wallet that prevented the attack entirely), I realized that anyone can get phished. They just rely on you being busy, or out, or tired, and just not checking closely enough. Use passkeys for everything, like Thomas says.

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Re: Kurt Got Got

#12
post #4

Great writeup, but also gotta say that’s some excellent phishing

I enjoyed the self-deprecating humor behind it.

I have been almost got, a couple of times. I'm not sure, but I may have realized that I got got, about 0.5 seconds after clicking[0], and was able to lock down, before they were able to grab it.

[0] https://imgur.com/EfQrdWY

Re: Kurt Got Got

#13
When we did annual pen testing audits for my last company, the security audit company always offered to do phishing or social engineering attacks, but advised against it because they said it worked every single time.

One of the most memorable things they shared is they'd throw USB sticks in the parking lot of the company they were pentesting and somebody would always put the thing into a workstation to see what as on it and get p0wned.

Phishing isn't really that different.

Great reminder to setup Passkeys: https://help.x.com/en/managing-your-account/how-to-use-passk...

Re: Kurt Got Got

#14
post #9

... could we get webauthn / yubikeys prioritized for fly? afaik (don't want to disable 2fa to find out), it only supports totp. For everyone reading though, you should try fly. Unaffiliated except for being a happy customer. 50 lines of toml is so so much better than 1k+ lines of cloudformation.

We don't like TOTP, at all, for reasons even more obvious now, but our standard answer for advanced MFA has been OIDC, which is what most people should do rather than setting up bespoke U2F/FIDO2/Passkeys.

We will get to this though.

https://fly.io/blog/tokenized-tokens/

Re: Kurt Got Got

#15
post #8

Ever since I almost got phished (wasn't looking closely enough at the domain to notice a little stress mark over the "s" in the domain name, thankfully I was using a hardware wallet that prevented the attack entirely), I realized that anyone can get phished. They just rely on you being busy, or out, or tired, and just not checking closely enough. Use passkeys for everything, like Thomas says.

If you grok Apple, I wrote up a tutorial on very basic PassKey implementation (for iOS apps), here: https://littlegreenviper.com/series/passkeys/

Re: Kurt Got Got

#16
post #8

Ever since I almost got phished (wasn't looking closely enough at the domain to notice a little stress mark over the "s" in the domain name, thankfully I was using a hardware wallet that prevented the attack entirely), I realized that anyone can get phished. They just rely on you being busy, or out, or tired, and just not checking closely enough. Use passkeys for everything, like Thomas says.

If you grok Apple, I wrote up a tutorial on very basic PassKey implementation (for iOS apps), here: https://littlegreenviper.com/series/passkeys/

Very nice, thanks! By the way, the preferred capitalization is "passkeys", like "passwords". It's not supposed to be capitalized like a proper noun.

Re: Kurt Got Got

#17
post #8

Ever since I almost got phished (wasn't looking closely enough at the domain to notice a little stress mark over the "s" in the domain name, thankfully I was using a hardware wallet that prevented the attack entirely), I realized that anyone can get phished. They just rely on you being busy, or out, or tired, and just not checking closely enough. Use passkeys for everything, like Thomas says.

Counterpoint: don't use passkeys, they're a confused mess and add limitations while not giving any benefits over a good long password in a password manager.

Re: Kurt Got Got

#18
post #17
post #8

Ever since I almost got phished (wasn't looking closely enough at the domain to notice a little stress mark over the "s" in the domain name, thankfully I was using a hardware wallet that prevented the attack entirely), I realized that anyone can get phished. They just rely on you being busy, or out, or tired, and just not checking closely enough. Use passkeys for everything, like Thomas says.

Counterpoint: don't use passkeys, they're a confused mess and add limitations while not giving any benefits over a good long password in a password manager.

Yep. A technical half-baked solution to a problem that has been solved since it's inception. Really just feels like FAANG exists to invent new ways to charge rent...

Re: Kurt Got Got

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post #17
post #8

Ever since I almost got phished (wasn't looking closely enough at the domain to notice a little stress mark over the "s" in the domain name, thankfully I was using a hardware wallet that prevented the attack entirely), I realized that anyone can get phished. They just rely on you being busy, or out, or tired, and just not checking closely enough. Use passkeys for everything, like Thomas says.

Counterpoint: don't use passkeys, they're a confused mess and add limitations while not giving any benefits over a good long password in a password manager.

They prevent you from being one of these, and copy pasting the password from password manager into the wrong input field. Something that still happens often with many websites not properly auto-filling from password managers.

> They just rely on you being busy, or out, or tired, and just not checking closely enough

Re: Kurt Got Got

#20
post #17
post #8

Ever since I almost got phished (wasn't looking closely enough at the domain to notice a little stress mark over the "s" in the domain name, thankfully I was using a hardware wallet that prevented the attack entirely), I realized that anyone can get phished. They just rely on you being busy, or out, or tired, and just not checking closely enough. Use passkeys for everything, like Thomas says.

Counterpoint: don't use passkeys, they're a confused mess and add limitations while not giving any benefits over a good long password in a password manager.

Yes, PKC authentication is good, but the way passkeys have been implemented is not great. Way too much trust built into the protocol; way too much power granted to relying parties; much harder for users to form a correct mental model.
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