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Study of 1M-year-old skull points to earlier origins of modern humans

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Re: Study of 1M-year-old skull points to earlier origins of modern humans

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I'm curious why humans evolved intelligence and chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans did not.

"Why humans evolved intelligence but orangutans did not".

There's a different way to think about this that is closer to how evolution actually works and will make the answer clear.

Our common ancestor (common to orangutans and humans) did evolve intelligence (concurrently with harnessing fire, clothing etc.). Not all of them, but some of them. And they broke off from the group. We now call them humans.

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I'm curious why humans evolved intelligence and chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans did not.

More energy from the digestive system to power a bigger GPU. Theories abound that this is due to the harnessing of fire for cooking.

And metabolizing alcohol, which also encourages reproduction.

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post #11

I'm curious why humans evolved intelligence and chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans did not.

"Why humans evolved intelligence but orangutans did not". There's a different way to think about this that is closer to how evolution actually works and will make the answer clear. Our common ancestor (common to orangutans and humans) did evolve intelligence (concurrently with harnessing fire, clothing etc.). Not all of them, but some of them. And they broke off from the group. We now call them humans.

I think their question is not about why humans evolved intelligence, but why one and only one single species did.

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post #11

I'm curious why humans evolved intelligence and chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans did not.

"Why humans evolved intelligence but orangutans did not". There's a different way to think about this that is closer to how evolution actually works and will make the answer clear. Our common ancestor (common to orangutans and humans) did evolve intelligence (concurrently with harnessing fire, clothing etc.). Not all of them, but some of them. And they broke off from the group. We now call them humans.

Intelligence was evolved millions of years after the most recent common ancestor. Harnessing fire, clothing, etc. came later still. The lineage that would ultimately give rise to humans split from the chimp/bonobo lineage as the human ancestors adapted to savanna life, likely due to aridification brought on by the formation of the Himalayas.

It's possible that selective pressure towards intelligence was greater for the human lineage than for the others. It's also possible that the evolution of intelligence was equally likely across the different lineages and humans just happened to be the one where the mutation happened. Regardless, once human ancestors filled the niche, it would have been difficult for another lineage to get in on the game.

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I'm curious why humans evolved intelligence and chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans did not.

We don't know.

All of the great apes are incredibly intelligent in comparison to most other animals. The basic roots of our intelligence are probably a common feature to the whole family, but there's no consensus on why it's so advanced in humans. Any paleoanthropologist can rattle off about half a dozen possible explanations, but we honestly don't have enough evidence to really distinguish if, when, and how these were factors at different points in human evolution. Here's a quick attempt at some broad categories, which each have multiple hypotheses within them:

* Because intelligence had advantages for individual selection (e.g. mimetic recall hypothesis)

* Because intelligence had advantages for group selection

* Because intelligence had advantages for sexual selection (spandrel hypotheses often start here)

* Because adapting to rapidly varying ecological conditions required so many adaptations that we crossed some kind of barrier and "fell into" intelligence

* Because intelligence helped with foraging/hunting (exclusive of sociality)

Re: Study of 1M-year-old skull points to earlier origins of modern humans

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I'm curious why humans evolved intelligence and chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans did not.

chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans evolved intelligence too. They are smarter than most other critters in the jungle. Just all not as much as the lineage that leads to humans.

It's actually quite difficult to define human intelligence. Every time we think we find something unique by humans eventually some animal turns up that can do it too. It may be all just a question of degree and how it's used.

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Out of africa is basically false, there were decently advanced walking hominids in asia a long time ago. Then they migrated west, africa was the origination, but that origination was not the ~50k years ago like was frequently claimed

We know there were indigenous folks here in Australia ~50K years ago, and we know that we didn't evolve in Australia, so any origination must be further back than that.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Why humans evolved intelligence but orangutans did not". There's a different way to think about this that is closer to how evolution actually works and will make the answer clear. Our common ancestor (common to orangutans and humans) did evolve intelligence (concurrently with harnessing fire, clothing etc.). Not all of them, but some of them. And they broke off from the group. We now call them humans.

Intelligence was evolved millions of years after the most recent common ancestor. Harnessing fire, clothing, etc. came later still. The lineage that would ultimately give rise to humans split from the chimp/bonobo lineage as the human ancestors adapted to savanna life, likely due to aridification brought on by the formation of the Himalayas. It's possible that selective pressure towards intelligence was greater for t…

Is there a specific definition for intelligence?
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