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Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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All those students, along with their talent and money and connections went _somewhere_ so that’s a shame for USA.

> All those students, along with their talent and money and connections went _somewhere_ so that’s a shame for USA.

Money? Yes.

Talent and connections? Not necessarily.

Top PhD students are still coming to America.

It’s the money-grabbing 12-month masters programs that are the problem.

Come buy a F-1 student visa for $200k! It’s the Trump silver card.

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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It's going to be a rough time for a lot of colleges that have been using foreign students paying full price to fund their operations. Especially now that the incoming college aged population is beginning to shrink and the percentage attending college has peaked, so the domestic population probably won't be able to fill the seats at less competitive colleges.

Perhaps they should tighten their belts and reduce administrative bloat. It’s not as if American society hadn’t collectively called for this for decades while tuition has risen astronomically.

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% of those students were not any more talented than the average US citizen

99% of stats are made up

But personal experience is not. I went to college and was friends with the foreign students. They were average.

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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All those students, along with their talent and money and connections went _somewhere_ so that’s a shame for USA.

99% of those students were not any more talented than the average US citizen

What's your point? That education only belongs to the "talented"? Talented in what way? What good does it do to society that the "non-talented" are not educated?

Also, no source for claim.

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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All those students, along with their talent and money and connections went _somewhere_ so that’s a shame for USA.

99% of those students were not any more talented than the average US citizen

It's not really talent, it's that they don't get scholarships and pay tuition in full. It was basically a subsidy program

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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So more spots for Americans? Doesn’t necessarily seem like a bad thing to me.

The flow of smart and talented people to the United States has historically been incredibly beneficial for the latter.

EDIT: further reading here: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/05/28/demand-f...

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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So more spots for Americans? Doesn’t necessarily seem like a bad thing to me.

You're assuming that there weren't enough spots for Americans and that they were getting denied due to foreigners. That's not true. For Americans who want a college education and don't get one is mostly because of the cost of education, which foreign students subsidize.

This is a classic case of shooing yourself in the foot only because of a fear of the foreigner.

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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All those students, along with their talent and money and connections went _somewhere_ so that’s a shame for USA.

99% of those students were not any more talented than the average US citizen

why do you say that?

I can say, that 99% of those students are much less obese than the average US citizen

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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The loss of foreign students is already having an impact on the Boston rental market, with thousands of fewer students coming to the city this year:

“I’ve been doing real estate and technology for 30 years. I’ve never seen anything like this,” Demetrios Salpoglou, CEO of Boston Pads, told Boston.com. “It’s very acute. It’s not impacting all neighborhoods … it’s really proximity to a lot of universities that have a heavy reliance on foreign money or foreign enrollment.”

https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2025/08/21/apartments...

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