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Email immutability matters more in a world with AI

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Re: Email immutability matters more in a world with AI

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> The world is changing, and we need to adapt and understand it. fastmail: read my lips: I pay you because you offer a traditional email service if you add a single AI feature I will return to self hosting

The entire article is about protecting against AI, and their internal policy on AI use. No new features mentioned.

Re: Email immutability matters more in a world with AI

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"An email is your copy, and the sender can’t revise it later." Sort of. They can't change plain text, but modern emails often include vast swaths of remote content. When you open the message, it retrieves the relevant assets directly from whoever sent the email. That remote content is not permanently stored . It's cached for a bit and will not be re-used if the email is opened months or years later. If those assets d…

I don't think that's really the case, is it? At least, not in any formally-specified way. Modern email clients will extract metadata for things like airline reservations, shipping trackers, ICS calendar invites, etc, and give you live tiles specific to that time-sensitive info, but it's very clearly supplementary and at least in GMail none of it is pretending to be part of the message itself.

Re: Email immutability matters more in a world with AI

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post #2

> The world is changing, and we need to adapt and understand it. fastmail: read my lips: I pay you because you offer a traditional email service if you add a single AI feature I will return to self hosting

Same. Family account. Stay simple.

Re: Email immutability matters more in a world with AI

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"An email is your copy, and the sender can’t revise it later." Sort of. They can't change plain text, but modern emails often include vast swaths of remote content. When you open the message, it retrieves the relevant assets directly from whoever sent the email. That remote content is not permanently stored . It's cached for a bit and will not be re-used if the email is opened months or years later. If those assets d…

I don't think that's really the case, is it? At least, not in any formally-specified way. Modern email clients will extract metadata for things like airline reservations, shipping trackers, ICS calendar invites, etc, and give you live tiles specific to that time-sensitive info, but it's very clearly supplementary and at least in GMail none of it is pretending to be part of the message itself.

Images are the clear thing that is typically remote - sometimes to the point of an email that’s entirely just an image, or rather a link to an image.

Re: Email immutability matters more in a world with AI

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"An email is your copy, and the sender can’t revise it later." Sort of. They can't change plain text, but modern emails often include vast swaths of remote content. When you open the message, it retrieves the relevant assets directly from whoever sent the email. That remote content is not permanently stored . It's cached for a bit and will not be re-used if the email is opened months or years later. If those assets d…

If this was correct, you wouldn’t be able to read those messages with remote content loading disabled or when in airplane mode. It’s pretty uncommon for me to get messages where that’s the case, and those are almost always marketing spam so, as they say, nothing of value is lost.

Apple’s private loading feature also shows how that could be fixed: the mail server can retrieve the referenced content once and save it so you’d always know what was served at the time the message was sent.

Re: Email immutability matters more in a world with AI

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"An email is your copy, and the sender can’t revise it later." Sort of. They can't change plain text, but modern emails often include vast swaths of remote content. When you open the message, it retrieves the relevant assets directly from whoever sent the email. That remote content is not permanently stored . It's cached for a bit and will not be re-used if the email is opened months or years later. If those assets d…

This isn't entirely true. While HTML email sometimes does have html tags in it, and can remotely download embedded images, it doesn't necessarily retrieve the asset from the person who sent it.

It could be anywhere, which is another knock against HTML email.

Which is why text only email is still king, and used in a lot of places still.

Re: Email immutability matters more in a world with AI

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> The world is changing, and we need to adapt and understand it. fastmail: read my lips: I pay you because you offer a traditional email service if you add a single AI feature I will return to self hosting

And all these services doubling or even trippeling their price to offer the same thing ... but with AI! I'd happily pay fastmail double the price, without the AI.

Heard, but let's not give them ideas.
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