> If you have to, blame stupidity not malice > No one is out to get you; they’re just out to get through the week. The author seems to be too naive. I don't have first-hand experience, but just hearing my friends who work at a certain company talking about what's happening, I know how terrible some people can be. And that's a widespread issue (otherwise I would not hear about similar things happening to people in dif…
Work is not school: Surviving institutional stupidity
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#12My experience with school wasn't that different from work life. Lessons that I learned in school that followed: 1) I am a dork, embrace it 2) Avoid Math 3) Scientific method = troubleshooting with purpose. Use it. 4) People in charge can be total idiots, but they're still in charge 5) Popularity and Competence are not related 6) Competence and compensation are not related 7) If you stay focused and just do you, you'l…
Sometimes these do not hold true, but then you have a truly toxic organization - one that you should run from, as fast as possible
Re: Work is not school: Surviving institutional stupidity
#13My experience with school wasn't that different from work life. Lessons that I learned in school that followed: 1) I am a dork, embrace it 2) Avoid Math 3) Scientific method = troubleshooting with purpose. Use it. 4) People in charge can be total idiots, but they're still in charge 5) Popularity and Competence are not related 6) Competence and compensation are not related 7) If you stay focused and just do you, you'l…
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#14> If you have to, blame stupidity not malice > No one is out to get you; they’re just out to get through the week. The author seems to be too naive. I don't have first-hand experience, but just hearing my friends who work at a certain company talking about what's happening, I know how terrible some people can be. And that's a widespread issue (otherwise I would not hear about similar things happening to people in dif…
Re: Work is not school: Surviving institutional stupidity
#15 - In school you can fail the entire class, (ie, all the students) which is less true at work. At work, you're just hiring your "section" of the bell curve, and insofar as being "successful" means "doing well at your job and not getting fired" then a C or D student can potentially be happily and gainfully employed indefinitely. They might have to take a less prestigious job, but they can find their niche and their place. This one really surprised me. You just don't have freedom of movement in school the way you do at work, and so anyone who is observant and hard working can pivot to a relatively-good situation for themselves. This just is not true at school.
- You get nearly endless chances to fail at work, and you usually have a PIP period of weeks or months to parachute to another job if you actually encounter failure. I know some people who have been failures for an entire 30-40 year career.
- If you're bad at writing essays in school, it doesn't matter; you simply need to write essays and getting better or worse at writing essays won't modify the number of essays you need to write. With work on the other hand you can specialize and minimize your weaknesses and play to your strengths. Yes, you can more easily change positions to accomplish this, but even within a single position you can just find ways to focus on the parts of the job you're best at and and excel at that area.
- Very, very few jobs have anything which resembles testing. In the real world you must understand _why_ certain things need to be done, but almost everyone has the opportunity to pause and look up the details via references. Testing really does not represent this whatsoever. It's also the case that some tasks at work will be done over and over again, and in real depth, and via this depth and repetition you will actually memorize things via real behavioral reward mechanisms that are just not possible in a classroom environment.
- You can always seek more clarification in the real world, and can even negotiate your own limitations. Your boss has asked you to do something? Have a conversation with them and explain the limitations in the approach and what sort of partial approach you think might work. This works great in the real world but is much, much more limited in a classroom environment.
I could go on, but I was honestly shocked when I got my first job and I was actually a pretty good employee. This has been true ever since, but I was screwing up in school all the time.Re: Work is not school: Surviving institutional stupidity
#16My experience with school wasn't that different from work life. Lessons that I learned in school that followed: 1) I am a dork, embrace it 2) Avoid Math 3) Scientific method = troubleshooting with purpose. Use it. 4) People in charge can be total idiots, but they're still in charge 5) Popularity and Competence are not related 6) Competence and compensation are not related 7) If you stay focused and just do you, you'l…
Can't agree, I know people who got more work because they focused and did the work
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#17True; as long as humans are humans, this will remain to be the case.
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#18My experience with school wasn't that different from work life. Lessons that I learned in school that followed: 1) I am a dork, embrace it 2) Avoid Math 3) Scientific method = troubleshooting with purpose. Use it. 4) People in charge can be total idiots, but they're still in charge 5) Popularity and Competence are not related 6) Competence and compensation are not related 7) If you stay focused and just do you, you'l…
I’m with you except for 2. Knowing math is great.
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#19My experience with school wasn't that different from work life. Lessons that I learned in school that followed: 1) I am a dork, embrace it 2) Avoid Math 3) Scientific method = troubleshooting with purpose. Use it. 4) People in charge can be total idiots, but they're still in charge 5) Popularity and Competence are not related 6) Competence and compensation are not related 7) If you stay focused and just do you, you'l…
> If you stay focused and just do you, you'll succeed despite other people's drama and your personal pains Can't agree, I know people who got more work because they focused and did the work
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#20My experience with school wasn't that different from work life. Lessons that I learned in school that followed: 1) I am a dork, embrace it 2) Avoid Math 3) Scientific method = troubleshooting with purpose. Use it. 4) People in charge can be total idiots, but they're still in charge 5) Popularity and Competence are not related 6) Competence and compensation are not related 7) If you stay focused and just do you, you'l…
5) Yes - but even if not popular, competent people are always respected 6) I would say that there's correlation, but it's not 1.0, more something like 0.5 - 0.7; other factors matter as well. Sometimes these do not hold true, but then you have a truly toxic organization - one that you should run from, as fast as possible