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JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

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Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

#11

Having the option to opt out is quite useless if it starts harvesting your code the second it enables itself. I've come to expect better of Jetbrains. This is pretty shitty. EDIT: Just noticed they are deleting some negative comments from that page. Definitely shitty.

I guess we will have to make our code as shitty as possible...Tabs AND spaces. Mixed randomly...All methods named doStuff()

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

#12
post #5

Really too bad. Rider is the best option for C# IMO. Would really like to know if vim with LSP is a good alternative.

Not sure about Vim, but Neovim would likely yield a better experience. I use Emacs and the Vi family editors myself as well as Rider, VS, and VS Code. As painful as it is for me to admit, Rider/VS are hard to beat.

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

#13

Having the option to opt out is quite useless if it starts harvesting your code the second it enables itself. I've come to expect better of Jetbrains. This is pretty shitty. EDIT: Just noticed they are deleting some negative comments from that page. Definitely shitty.

They've been deleting pushback and criticism on a lot of their posts for a couple years now. The "new UI" forced update generated a whole lot of negative feedback, which they deleted and proudly announced that some impossible number of people chose the new UI and that it was exclusively an opt-in feature (which is a blatant lie).

They've become extremely shitty in recent years. I canceled my ten year old subscription to their whole product line because I'm not going to pay to be lied to.

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

#14
post #5

Really too bad. Rider is the best option for C# IMO. Would really like to know if vim with LSP is a good alternative.

If you're writing plain C#, Neovim with the Rosyln LSP is pretty solid. If you're working with Razor Pages, though, may God have mercy on your soul. I can't even find good syntax highlighting, never mind all the other functionality I expect out of a language server.

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

#15
JetBrains is going to run themselves out of business. It's like they forgot that all their money comes from the people who have been paying them for years for software that is vital to their work and livelihood. It seems they're intentionally dumping all their old customers to focus the full might of their organization.... chasing fads.

They spent millions of dollars reworking their IDEs to look like a cheap VSCode knockoff and have become obsessed with chasing new, hip users who aren't going to pay what the old timers were because their IDEs are free now.

I genuinely cannot fathom how anyone thinks that this current obsession is a good idea. They had their corner of the market absolutely nailed down and secure. If they'd just kept on quietly making the best IDEs available while everyone else in the industry has lost their damn minds, they'd be golden. A large majority of their users simply wanted a good IDE with an easy to understand UI that just keeps working the same way it's always worked and doesn't randomly change shit and force you to stop working to figure out the new software.

JetBrains absolutely cornered the market for power users, and now they want to piss it all away. Not even for a semi-reasonable profit motive, they're just chasing fads becuase... because everyone else is, I guess.

I canceled my subscription a while ago, and I'll keep using the last version to have a sensible UI until something better comes along.

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

#16
post #5

Really too bad. Rider is the best option for C# IMO. Would really like to know if vim with LSP is a good alternative.

The only decent alternative I know of is old school Visual Studio. But knowing Microsoft, it's probably a copilot hellscape now.

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

#17

JetBrains is going to run themselves out of business. It's like they forgot that all their money comes from the people who have been paying them for years for software that is vital to their work and livelihood. It seems they're intentionally dumping all their old customers to focus the full might of their organization.... chasing fads. They spent millions of dollars reworking their IDEs to look like a cheap VSCode k…

For what it’s worth, I’ve been using IntelliJ for about a decade now, and I thought the UI change was great. Obviously not for everyone, but I’m more productive now thanks to it.

I don’t like their recent AI features, in large part because my company only allows OpenAI, but everything else that they’re doing is great.

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

#20
post #11

Having the option to opt out is quite useless if it starts harvesting your code the second it enables itself. I've come to expect better of Jetbrains. This is pretty shitty. EDIT: Just noticed they are deleting some negative comments from that page. Definitely shitty.

I guess we will have to make our code as shitty as possible...Tabs AND spaces. Mixed randomly...All methods named doStuff()

Fwiw, many languages now support utf-8 characters in names, so do♠() is a valid function name.
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