Hey Lennert, congrats on the launch! Still open to chat about uithub
Launch HN: Airweave (YC X25) – Let agents search any app
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Re: Launch HN: Airweave (YC X25) – Let agents search any app
#12How do you compare to Onyx? We've used it for some limited use cases, but one of the real challenges - and one I hope to see a lot of innovation on in the space - was permissioning.
I see in another comment that you encourage each user to build their own dataset with their own permissions, but often this breaks for founders. If I have a Super Secret Personnel Planning Google Doc at a founder level, how can I be the one to set up the system for our company, but ensure that only files that I've explicitly shared with the company are ingested? What if a file needs to be made anyone-with-link-can-access for sharing with a strategic partner, but that shouldn't be indexed for the entire company?
Far too much of the world relies on the security-by-obscurity of public-but-unindexed links, and communications that might look public from a metadata perspective but were carefully designed for a very specific group of people who have verbal/mental context about confidentiality expectations. Being able to categorize by likely confidentiality, and allowing an administrator to partition access on a project and sub-project basis based on that, might be crucial for growth.
My recollection is that Onyx had limited support for some security use cases, but very rudimentary. Hoping you can solve this in a thoughtful way!
Onyx links for comparison:
Re: Launch HN: Airweave (YC X25) – Let agents search any app
#13Cool deal. How is this different from Glean?
Glean is enterprise search for humans. Airweave is built for agent developers that want to access their user’s (so the person using the agent product) information
Your pricing currently seems prohibitive for that kind of use case. Shouldn't it be usage-based so one can build a product where users can connect their apps without having to worry about arbitrary limits on plans? There should be a PAYG option that simply charges per connection, and automatic volume discounts.
Re: Launch HN: Airweave (YC X25) – Let agents search any app
#14Great release,
1. How do you decide whether to cache the data into a vector database or fetch it on runtime using a tool call ?
2. Slowly all players like Open AI / Claude are trying to provide a somewhat equivalent offering of connecting your workspaces and then providing search on top of it either via direct integrations / mcp servers, how do you see that spanning out ?
Re: Launch HN: Airweave (YC X25) – Let agents search any app
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Glean is enterprise search for humans. Airweave is built for agent developers that want to access their user’s (so the person using the agent product) information
Your pricing currently seems prohibitive for that kind of use case. Shouldn't it be usage-based so one can build a product where users can connect their apps without having to worry about arbitrary limits on plans? There should be a PAYG option that simply charges per connection, and automatic volume discounts.
Definitely worth looking into.
Re: Launch HN: Airweave (YC X25) – Let agents search any app
#16Great release, 1. How do you decide whether to cache the data into a vector database or fetch it on runtime using a tool call ? 2. Slowly all players like Open AI / Claude are trying to provide a somewhat equivalent offering of connecting your workspaces and then providing search on top of it either via direct integrations / mcp servers, how do you see that spanning out ?
Airweave always indexes everything. We do not do any direct tool calling currently.
Re: Launch HN: Airweave (YC X25) – Let agents search any app
#17How do you compare to Onyx? We've used it for some limited use cases, but one of the real challenges - and one I hope to see a lot of innovation on in the space - was permissioning. I see in another comment that you encourage each user to build their own dataset with their own permissions, but often this breaks for founders. If I have a Super Secret Personnel Planning Google Doc at a founder level, how can I be the o…
It’s a good point. It IS hard to map the various “off-market RBACs” onto a unified model and this is part of the reason we delay that - and instead handle it with per-user syncs that include the q=“sharedWithMe” parameters.
As for intelligently - but probabilistically - determining confidentiality (if I read that correctly), that does sound pretty interesting in scenarios where metadata is just simply insufficient. Also tricky. Sounds like you thought about these problems pretty deeply.
Re: Launch HN: Airweave (YC X25) – Let agents search any app
#18Can I have the application search without the LLM shit?
Re: Launch HN: Airweave (YC X25) – Let agents search any app
#19How do you compare to Onyx? We've used it for some limited use cases, but one of the real challenges - and one I hope to see a lot of innovation on in the space - was permissioning. I see in another comment that you encourage each user to build their own dataset with their own permissions, but often this breaks for founders. If I have a Super Secret Personnel Planning Google Doc at a founder level, how can I be the o…
Don't mean to hijack (one of the Onyx founders here), but the example you described should be doable with Drive service accounts. Admittedly, our permissioning system is only implemented for a handful of connectors like Drive.
Congratulations on the launch Rauf & Lennert! Always great to have more innovation in the open source AI space :D. It looks like Airweave works well with Cursor, something we don't have nailed down yet!
Re: Launch HN: Airweave (YC X25) – Let agents search any app
#20is this like RAG for cloud services that store my content?