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Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by kwanbix »

matdehaast wrote: post #8

It feels like Intel and AMD are asleep at the wheel with their mobile lineup. I've been looking at non-apple equivalents that have similar performance/power as the M lineup and it seems they all lag about 20%+. For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around.

If you are OK with the closed apple ecosystem, sure, but I mean, 20% is not that much for 99% of the population.

Don't get me wrong, I really admire what apple has done with the M CPUs, but I personally prefer the freedom of being able to install linux, bsd, windows, and even weirder OSes like Haiku.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by TrainedMonkey »

bhouston wrote: post #5

Nice. The iPads generally measure around ~8% slower than the MacBooks, I guess for cooling reasons. So we should see approximately a 4400 single core Geekbench score for the MacBook series. This is nice. Single thread MacBook progression on Geekbench: M1: 2350 M2: 2600 M3: 3100 M4: 3850 M5: 4400 (estimated) https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks

I think we will land around 4300. On paper N3P is 5-10% more transistors and 5-10% more efficiency. Naively this puts the perf lift range from 10.25% (1.05 * 1.05) to 21% (1.10 * 1.10). 4300 would be around halfway estimate. Gains in iPhone and iPads perf are heavily supported by new cooling tech. When compared to iPhones and iPads, Macbook Pros are much less thermally constrained and M5 Macbooks are keeping M4 design.

TL:DR I expect a smaller MBP M4 to M5 pop compared to iPads M4 vs M5 because the latter are benefiting from new cooling tech.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by matdehaast »

hu3 wrote: post #10
matdehaast wrote: post #8

It feels like Intel and AMD are asleep at the wheel with their mobile lineup. I've been looking at non-apple equivalents that have similar performance/power as the M lineup and it seems they all lag about 20%+. For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around.

> For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around. Only if you don't mind macOS.

And therein lies the problem. Apple has managed to push a hardware advantage into something that makes a difference.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by apercu »

hu3 wrote: post #10
matdehaast wrote: post #8

It feels like Intel and AMD are asleep at the wheel with their mobile lineup. I've been looking at non-apple equivalents that have similar performance/power as the M lineup and it seems they all lag about 20%+. For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around.

> For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around. Only if you don't mind macOS.

I used to not, but it’s getting worse and worse.

Still better than all the alternatives for someone like me that has to straddle clients expecting MS Office, gives me a *nix out of the box, and can run logic, reaper , MainStage.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by eek2121 »

bhouston wrote: post #5

Nice. The iPads generally measure around ~8% slower than the MacBooks, I guess for cooling reasons. So we should see approximately a 4400 single core Geekbench score for the MacBook series. This is nice. Single thread MacBook progression on Geekbench: M1: 2350 M2: 2600 M3: 3100 M4: 3850 M5: 4400 (estimated) https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks

Keep in mind that a big part of the huge jump in recent chips was that GB6 added support for SME, and to my knowledge, no app uses SME as of yet. GB5 is a better benchmark for all these chips for this reason.

The actual IPC increase and perf/clock of these chips excluding SME specific acceleration is MUCH smaller.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by AlphaAndOmega0 »

I own an M4 iPad Pro and can't figure out what to do with even a fraction of the horsepower, given iPadOS's limitations. The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting, perhaps Apple will deign to make their ridiculously overpowered SOCs usable for general purpose computing. A man can dream..

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by bhouston »

matdehaast wrote: post #8

It feels like Intel and AMD are asleep at the wheel with their mobile lineup. I've been looking at non-apple equivalents that have similar performance/power as the M lineup and it seems they all lag about 20%+. For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around.

I use a MacBook Air 15" has my full stack main development machine. It is just light and portable on the go. At home I just plug it into a docking station with 10 GigE and output to a 48" OLED monitor - a beautiful setup.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by reaperducer »

AlphaAndOmega0 wrote: post #16

I own an M4 iPad Pro and can't figure out what to do with even a fraction of the horsepower, given iPadOS's limitations. The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting, perhaps Apple will deign to make their ridiculously overpowered SOCs usable for general purpose computing. A man can dream..

I own an M4 iPad Pro and can't figure out what to do with even a fraction of the horsepower, given iPadOS's limitations.

It's a nice problem to have, since for most of computing history it's been the other way around. (Meaning the hardware was the constraint, not the OS.)

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by criddell »

I bought an M4 iPad Pro and ended up returning it because I just don't like the magic keyboard. My current iPad is from 2018 and I use the Smart Keyboard Folio and (for me) it's just about perfect. Small, lightweight, not too expensive, easy to clean, and works great.

I've been hoping there were enough people like me that a third party would make a replacement but that never happened.

I know my current iPad Pro won't last forever so I suppose I'll end up with a Magic Keyboard setup eventually.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by bhouston »

eek2121 wrote: post #15
bhouston wrote: post #5

Nice. The iPads generally measure around ~8% slower than the MacBooks, I guess for cooling reasons. So we should see approximately a 4400 single core Geekbench score for the MacBook series. This is nice. Single thread MacBook progression on Geekbench: M1: 2350 M2: 2600 M3: 3100 M4: 3850 M5: 4400 (estimated) https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks

Keep in mind that a big part of the huge jump in recent chips was that GB6 added support for SME, and to my knowledge, no app uses SME as of yet. GB5 is a better benchmark for all these chips for this reason. The actual IPC increase and perf/clock of these chips excluding SME specific acceleration is MUCH smaller.

I've benchmarked these myself on things like my project's build time on M1, M2 and M3 and I did see similar gains. So I disagree from experience.
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