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Swiss voters back e-ID and abolish rental tax

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Re: Swiss voters back e-ID and abolish rental tax

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Abolishing rental tax is huge. What does that do for affordability?

makes swiss landlords richer. Foreign nationals cannot own rental homes.

Not quite. If you reside in Switzerland, you can own rental homes. Just foreign non-residents cannot buy.

Re: Swiss voters back e-ID and abolish rental tax

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post #9

Abolishing rental tax is huge. What does that do for affordability?

The price of houses has just gone up because they have removed a real estate tax. Simple, and short sighted. The taxes need to be raised from somewhere so now let's see what convoluted and complex schemes they come up with to do that.

Re: Swiss voters back e-ID and abolish rental tax

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Unlike the proposed UK digital ID (which is not a "card"), this one is optional. Nobody is being forced to buy a smartphone and accept Apple or Google's terms of service.

But the Swiss already have a unique digital identifier for everyone living and working in Switzerland (your AVS number I think?) so it's really not optional, and is the primary purpose of the new UK id. The actual application itself is much of a muchness. Also, the UK gov has already said there will be solutions for old people/time travellers/the Amish etc without phones. Nobody is going to force anybody to buy a pho…

AFAIK, the UK gov has only said there will be solutions for people unable to use a phone, not people unwilling to use a phone.

Re: Swiss voters back e-ID and abolish rental tax

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Unlike the proposed UK digital ID (which is not a "card"), this one is optional. Nobody is being forced to buy a smartphone and accept Apple or Google's terms of service.

Define optional? There will be new checks introduced online where you can only enter if you have an E-ID. Companies do have to accept a physical card as well, but only if you appear physically at the companies doors. Otherwise, that statement was kind of deceptive in my opinion because there will be a lot of pressure to get one. They also decided to make it free, which shows they probably want to achieve a high adopt…

Optional meaning you have the choice of using the existing physical ID. I don't see how this is deceptive. "A lot of pressure" is not the same as being unable to legally work without the digital ID.

Re: Swiss voters back e-ID and abolish rental tax

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Swiss e-ID is self sovereign and built on open protocols. https://github.com/swiyu-admin-ch

I like that it is open source, I don't like that they use SD-JWT tokens which contain hashes of people's names for things like age verification.

why is that bad?

Re: Swiss voters back e-ID and abolish rental tax

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the Swiss already have a unique digital identifier for everyone living and working in Switzerland (your AVS number I think?) so it's really not optional, and is the primary purpose of the new UK id. The actual application itself is much of a muchness. Also, the UK gov has already said there will be solutions for old people/time travellers/the Amish etc without phones. Nobody is going to force anybody to buy a pho…

AFAIK, the UK gov has only said there will be solutions for people unable to use a phone, not people unwilling to use a phone.

" As part of our consultation, we will be making sure the scheme is inclusive by considering:

- physical alternatives are available for those without smartphones "

From

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/digital-id-scheme...

Re: Swiss voters back e-ID and abolish rental tax

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post #10
post #6

Swiss e-ID is self sovereign and built on open protocols. https://github.com/swiyu-admin-ch

I like that it is open source, I don't like that they use SD-JWT tokens which contain hashes of people's names for things like age verification.

It's only partially open source. Some server-side code remains proprietary, and the client-side will depend on proprietary code of Google and Apple and they do not plan to support platforms that are actually Free Software. The law overall is badly written. For example, articles 12 and 26 effectively say that "The source is shared with public, except if it is proprietary or insecure." Or take Article 4: "The government may operate systems that protect the privacy of the identity subjects."
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