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Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco

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Re: Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco

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Be that as it may, they effectively entirely handed governance of Ruby Central over to a single party and manufactured a funding crisis that that party used to make drastic change.

This directly damaged the entire Ruby community. Their dollars had influence that they could have used to steer the organization elsewhere, but instead they took their toys away and gave control to the very people they disagreed with.

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I'm totally out of the loop. What did DHH do?

Edit: I did a little googling and it sounds like he banned political speech at work? Is that the extent of it? His Wikipedia article doesn't say anything about controversy or racism.

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Programmers need to grow up and dispense with this belief.

They’d like to imagine a world where there’s no such thing as sales and marketing, where they can interact with humans and especially business manager types who tell them what to build as little as possible.

So many developers seem to genuinely not understand why their contributions to software used by millions don’t magically generate income.

If you’re a FOSS developer you need to grow up and do one of the following rather than moaning about not being paid:

1. Accept that you’re not getting paid and do the work as an exercise in personal growth and enjoyment. Don’t make it your job and don’t do burnout-inducing things like providing support for free.

2. Come up with a business model. Learn something about sales and marketing. E.g., nginx plus.

3. Get a corporate sponsor and deal with having a manager type telling you what to do and/or corporate employees steering the direction of your project.

Re: Why I'm not rushing to take sides in the RubyGems fiasco

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This seems to be mostly "I dislike Andre" and not really about the current events? I think a total of half a paragraph is about current events in any form.

While I agree, I think that was where Justin’s experience could contribute some nuance to the overall narrative.

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I'm totally out of the loop. What did DHH do? Edit: I did a little googling and it sounds like he banned political speech at work? Is that the extent of it? His Wikipedia article doesn't say anything about controversy or racism.

https://tekin.co.uk/2025/09/the-ruby-community-has-a-dhh-pro...

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Be that as it may, they effectively entirely handed governance of Ruby Central over to a single party and manufactured a funding crisis that that party used to make drastic change. This directly damaged the entire Ruby community. Their dollars had influence that they could have used to steer the organization elsewhere, but instead they took their toys away and gave control to the very people they disagreed with.

A system with a single failure point is inherently unstable. It's not a question of if it will fail but when it will fail.

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"People aren't allowed to do what they want with their own money only what I want them to do with their money."

Where is this quote from? The person you're replying to didn't say that at all.

They merely highlighted the fact that Perham attempted to punish RubyCentral for their "platforming" of DHH by pulling funding, but instead managed to consolidate power in the hands of those loyal to DHH. Had a bit of a Game of Thrones appeal which is I think why it has had such staying power on HN over the last week.

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I'm totally out of the loop. What did DHH do? Edit: I did a little googling and it sounds like he banned political speech at work? Is that the extent of it? His Wikipedia article doesn't say anything about controversy or racism.

He writes about controversial topics on his personal blog, and is on the right side of the political spectrum
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