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Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the previous generations of AI which has been rebranded to "machine vision" and "machine learning" rather than "AI" due to the numerous hype crashes making the term AI unpalatable for a generation. It's materially different than "Generative AI" which is the current trend of AI hype, which is what I think the "AI" in the title is referring to.

Unlikely to be Gen AI. The military applications of missiles that can generate LinkedIn posts about B2B marketing as they descend on their targets are probably quite limited.

You can use Gen AI to generate actuator inputs.

Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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The link doesn't work. Also missiles already use AI to know where they are, so I'm skeptical that the headline is true.

The link works for me. > The Pentagon has also struggled to find software that can successfully control large numbers of drones, made by different companies, working in coordination to find and potentially strike a target—a key to making the Replicator vision work. So the software can't work with arbitrary drones. The article also talks about the high cost of some of the drones. > Of the dozen or so autonomous system…

> because you don't want it to mistakenly kill civilians

says who? the US military is completely fine with mistakenly killing civilians

Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlikely to be Gen AI. The military applications of missiles that can generate LinkedIn posts about B2B marketing as they descend on their targets are probably quite limited.

You’re not using your imagination enough. Warfare is more than just munitions.

I feel like a lot of those other uses are more aligned to the three letter agencies for intelligence and influence if were talking mostly about gen AI. I assume the next best place (excluding munitions and their delivery systems) would be cyber operations. But this realm is touchy and the leaders don't want to start a shooting war with cyber retaliation/strikes. The oversite, need for human in the loop, and aversion to collateral damage make AI weapons difficult to develop and deploy, especially if we earent counting older computer vison etc. It's no surprise the military is having trouble developing and deploying AI weapons in that environment.

Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The link works for me. > The Pentagon has also struggled to find software that can successfully control large numbers of drones, made by different companies, working in coordination to find and potentially strike a target—a key to making the Replicator vision work. So the software can't work with arbitrary drones. The article also talks about the high cost of some of the drones. > Of the dozen or so autonomous system…

> because you don't want it to mistakenly kill civilians says who? the US military is completely fine with mistakenly killing civilians

> want to

> fine with

In military theater it’s an important distinction.

But really, you just wanted to post a comment trashing the US. It didn’t add to the conversation.

Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re not using your imagination enough. Warfare is more than just munitions.

Yes, I see great potential in injecting your AI into the enemies communication system. Being able to have an AI try and persuade your enemy to do things in your favor, confuse them, or censor information all processed in real time and potentially at scale of the enemy's entire army is very powerful. It could even take a passive role and serve as pure intelligence gathering of the current state of things.

Aside from the potential scale, those arent really new ideas. The scale could actually be a hindrance. Once it's used, it's future utility drops dramatically. Kind of how the intelligence community don't want to burn their zero days or exploits for low value operations. Even utilizing intelligence frorm passive opperation can tip them off.

Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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The US is too proud to admit that Ukraine is the world expert on drone warfare and that Americans should learn from Ukrainians.

"Ukraine's homegrown drones have become increasingly lethal, critical tools in war with Russia" https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-fedorov-drones-war-rus...

"Poland turns to Ukraine for drone warfare expertise after Russian weapons enter airspace" https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/poland-turns-to-ukraine-f...

The US needs Ukraine to exist and not be annexed by Russia.

Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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The US is too proud to admit that Ukraine is the world expert on drone warfare and that Americans should learn from Ukrainians. "Ukraine's homegrown drones have become increasingly lethal, critical tools in war with Russia" https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-fedorov-drones-war-rus... "Poland turns to Ukraine for drone warfare expertise after Russian weapons enter airspace" https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/poland…

What if their drones weren't good? Just a country being attacked, with no strategic war technology transfer. Then, what should the US position be?

Call me an idealist, but I think the priority in this conflict should be their sovereignty and the well being of the people over there. Otherwise it's just weird.

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