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Viralized lukewarm hot takes expanded to tl;dr pseudointellectual drivel that makes readers feel sophisticated for powering through.
I started listening but got too reminded of the Rush Limbaugh Family Guy episode to continue more than a couple of times. It's all rage. 5 minutes of hate for our generation. Not constructive and not healthy.
It's concerning that FT don't take more of an econs-of-AI-investment angle, explored here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45399893 (Maybe Doctorow has too much of a Guardian vibe, compared to Zitron?) The Economist would argue that the investor is always right, so maybe that's too hard of a line for FT to press
I've said this many times but I'll say it again. The FT is not some single opinion org. It has many writers and many editors of various opinions. The FT itself does not take any angle, only it's writers and editors, who can have contradictory views and still publish articles in the same media org.
https://www.ft.com/tabby-kinder
No "unified opinion" but an editorial stance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Times#Editorial_stan...
you want to open a wikipedia debate on that :)?
If I were you I'd point to the FT [Weekend] Magazine marquee instead
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I started listening but got too reminded of the Rush Limbaugh Family Guy episode to continue more than a couple of times. It's all rage. 5 minutes of hate for our generation. Not constructive and not healthy.
People love being outraged. And no easier target than useless, overpaid, digital analphabet CEOs, AI slop and techbros.
Anyone who sincerely believes they’re witnessing 2000’s-levels of greed, economic malfeasance, and oversight failures would be appropriate in behaving frantically. Zitron’s core arguments describe a deeply troubling scenario, and as this article mentions he is not terribly concise—his articles contain a great deal of details and explanations for his positions, and I have largely seen only ad-hoc complaints of his bedside manner, or else vague gestures towards as-yet unrealized prosperity, in response to them.
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People love being outraged. And no easier target than useless, overpaid, digital analphabet CEOs, AI slop and techbros.
Just for the record, I don’t love being outraged, and yet I frequently employ active effort to maintain my composure. Society is being looted from the top; in both scope and scale, it’s only getting worse. I can appreciate that many find Zitron’s angry energy grating, but I don’t think it’s disingenuous and he’s clearly tapping into a widely shared sense of a degraded society. Anyone who sincerely believes they’re wi…
I think it is. If you read this article, for instance:
https://www.wheresyoured.at/longcon/
You will find that he vacillates between “this shit doesn't impress me even a little”; “everything I am describing is unfathomably dangerous”; and “I refuse to sit here and pretend that any of this matters”.
This is not an honest opinion. He considers his enemies both too strong and too weak, depending upon whether he wants to make you feel like they are pathetic or scary. He’s just saying whatever he thinks will make people angry at something he hates.
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Just for the record, I don’t love being outraged, and yet I frequently employ active effort to maintain my composure. Society is being looted from the top; in both scope and scale, it’s only getting worse. I can appreciate that many find Zitron’s angry energy grating, but I don’t think it’s disingenuous and he’s clearly tapping into a widely shared sense of a degraded society. Anyone who sincerely believes they’re wi…
> I can appreciate that many find Zitron’s angry energy grating, but I don’t think it’s disingenuous I think it is. If you read this article, for instance: https://www.wheresyoured.at/longcon/ You will find that he vacillates between “this shit doesn't impress me even a little”; “everything I am describing is unfathomably dangerous”; and “I refuse to sit here and pretend that any of this matters”. This is not an hone…
I had a stressful five minutes this morning talking about using floating point numbers being weird for some financial applications because he wouldn't accept a shoddy answer.
Objecting to his writing and tone is one thing, but Ed is not dishonest or sloppy.
(And I've seen hospitals do some horrible things that probably demonstrably killed people through funding misallocation and reporting mistakes, which were at least partially caused by the AI bubble. So I think it's fair to say that some AI applications can be unimpressive while the net effect is disastrous.)
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> I can appreciate that many find Zitron’s angry energy grating, but I don’t think it’s disingenuous I think it is. If you read this article, for instance: https://www.wheresyoured.at/longcon/ You will find that he vacillates between “this shit doesn't impress me even a little”; “everything I am describing is unfathomably dangerous”; and “I refuse to sit here and pretend that any of this matters”. This is not an hone…
I feel obliged to say that this isn't true of Ed at all. He does a lot more "real journalism" than most of the journalists I've interacted, and grills the people he's interviewing on technical details more than anyone else I've seen in the field. I had a stressful five minutes this morning talking about using floating point numbers being weird for some financial applications because he wouldn't accept a shoddy answer…
Do you think somebody can honestly hold all of these opinions at the same time?
> this shit doesn't impress me even a little
> everything I am describing is unfathomably dangerous
> expensive, stupid, irksome, quasi-useless new product
> I refuse to sit here and pretend that any of this matters.
So it’s simultaneously unimpressive, unfathomably dangerous, stupid, quasi-useless, and it doesn’t matter?
It's concerning that FT don't take more of an econs-of-AI-investment angle, explored here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45399893 (Maybe Doctorow has too much of a Guardian vibe, compared to Zitron?) The Economist would argue that the investor is always right, so maybe that's too hard of a line for FT to press
- ‘Absolutely immense’: the companies on the hook for the $3tn AI building boom [1][2]
- Inside the AI race: can data centres ever truly be green? [3][4]
- Inside the relentless race for AI capacity [5]
[1] https://www.ft.com/content/efe1e350-62c6-4aa0-a833-f6da01265...
[3] https://www.ft.com/content/0f6111a8-0249-4a28-aef4-1854fc8b4...