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Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

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Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

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post #8

Ugh. I guess this is part of the normalization of surveillance in the Europe with chat control and everything else.

Every single comment: What do you mean, it's totally normal to require fingerprint scanning for travel purposes!

People will let others take from them, piece by piece, until everything is gone. Even if you have nothing to hide, do we not have a right to privacy? We should be asking why they need it.

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

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post #8

Ugh. I guess this is part of the normalization of surveillance in the Europe with chat control and everything else.

Every single comment: What do you mean, it's totally normal to require fingerprint scanning for travel purposes!

From high risk countries, full of extremists and other dangerous people like the US? Seems pretty reasonable.

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

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post #10
post #6

My husband, a German, has been putting his fingers on the scanners when coming in to visit my family for nearly two decades - turnabout is fair play, I suppose...

That's the idea with a lot of immigration policy. Strange this one wasn't already reciprocal. Whoever originally designed it felt that Europe needed American visitors more than vice versa, but now, that's not the case.

Or that Europe should treat foreigners nicely.

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

#14

Ugh. I guess this is part of the normalization of surveillance in the Europe with chat control and everything else.

Perhaps you didn’t realize that the United States has required most Europeans to scan their fingerprints for several decades upon entry.

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

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post #14

Ugh. I guess this is part of the normalization of surveillance in the Europe with chat control and everything else.

Perhaps you didn’t realize that the United States has required most Europeans to scan their fingerprints for several decades upon entry.

Everybody entering you mean.

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

#18

It's unfortunate that the whole world is becoming more and more closed off. It feels like eventually we are all going to be locked into the country of our birth, with no hope of traveling somewhere else for a better life.

Chattel Slavery

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

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I won't say the governmental fingerprint DB is great for liberty, but in the grand scheme of things, it's largely inconsequential.

Case in point: South Korea. It has the total fingerprint DB of every adult citizen. Has been so for decades. Doesn't really affect people's freedom except in the abstract sense of "I don't like it when the government knows too much about me" way. Didn't even stop citizens from organizing mass protests when our president was stupid enough to declare martial law last year.

There are usual suspects that pose much bigger threats to democracy: things like income inequality, failing education, social network doing its things, media colluding with mega corporations, the usual stuff. Fingerprints may make a nice Hollywood SF thriller but that's about it.

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

#20
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you didn’t realize that the United States has required most Europeans to scan their fingerprints for several decades upon entry.

Everybody entering you mean.

With some exceptions, including not only the obvious one of US citizens but also most Canadian visitors too.
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