It's about time we see some real innovation in this space, but will they be able to avoid the usual stench associated with tech recruiters?
This Site Pays Developers When It Finds Them a Job
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#12It's an interesting idea and I wish whoever runs it the absolute best. I can tell the motivation here is to maximize the earning potential for a developer and find a good fit through a novel approach and I commend the thought. I can't help but laugh at the idea of someone being auctioned off, though. Pretty sure they used to do this and you got the manacles with your purchase. How invested is an employer going to be…
It's not a traditional auction in the sense that "highest bidder wins". The goal is to present each software engineer with 5-10 opportunities at cool companies, with numbers attached to them.
They can then choose which offers are worth following-up with via phone or in-person interviews based on any number of factors (location, product/service, company stage, who the investors are, equity, salary, etc.).
Like you say, there's much more to a job than a salary but in an environment where the average SF Developer gets recruitment spam every 40-hours, we hope to provide a more efficient way of vetting & comparing opportunities.
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#13Perhaps they should pay for time spent on interviewing?
For multi-day interviews, they should definitely pay. With the current job market, I'm surprised more companies don't.
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#14Okay, but it's still turning away most of us, right?
Yeah, from a revenue standpoint I can understand why, saying you are from google means you passed the 'google interview' or something. Therefore those candidates are probably easier to place (there's an assumption of excellence).
That doesn't make it any less frustrating for those of us not graced with the big names on our resume. In the meantime however I've found places like Angel List is a good place to put your profile to find out about startups.
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#15Developer Auction == Silicon Valley farce to recycle Silicon Valley players at the expense of outsiders and newcomers.
Yes... propagate the myth of 'the hard to find' developer by pretending that only the 'elite' exist by dint of their Alma Mater or current employer...
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#16Okay, but it's still turning away most of us, right?
Yes. They only take "top developers", who are "25 times more effective than the average developer". Which is precisely measured by looking at what school you went to, or what gigantic tech company you have previously worked for.
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#17Perhaps they should pay for time spent on interviewing?
For multi-day interviews, they should definitely pay. With the current job market, I'm surprised more companies don't.
There are 52 weeks in a year -- minus 2 weeks vacation (USA) and 1 week holidays, yields 49 weeks. 49 * 5 days = 245 days. So if you take one day off to interview, that's 0.4% of your annual pay. So DA should ask the companies to pay the candidate 0.4% of their bid to bring the candidate in for an interview. In the current system, making a bid doesn't mean the company has skin in the game (since they may not make an offer), but it costs the candidate a lot to take a day off.
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#18Okay, but it's still turning away most of us, right?
Yes. They only take " top developers ", who are " 25 times more effective than the average developer ". Which is precisely measured by looking at what school you went to, or what gigantic tech company you have previously worked for.
I can't speak for these guys, but assuming they have good intentions I'd like to think that "went to a brand-name school or worked for a brand-name tech company" is essentially just the MVP of a system for verifying credentials that will eventually get more nuanced and less embarrassingly-biased.
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#19A 3% bonus? I guess it's better than traditional recruiters, but I think the real (financial) value lies in being offered a larger salary (which could be worth substantially more than 3%).
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#20That's good, but where is the incentive to stay at the job? They should make a requirement that you are at the job for 3-6 months before you get the pay.
And that works both ways. We've had several new hires who didn't last a month. Does the hiring company still pay the full price in those cases?