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Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

#11

Post by nikcub »

> Chances are, if you’ve used ChatGPT, Google Labs, Cal.com or a million other websites, you’ve already interacted with Auth.js.

I missed OpenAI migrating away from auth0. They must have been one of their largest customers - anybody know the story?

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

#13

Post by bstsb »

reilly3000 wrote: post #12

Better Auth has raised $5M. I don’t think it’s great to see a truly free project get absorbed into a commercial venture.

while i agree, in this case at least it looks like the money raised is for a future SaaS auth solution built on top of the open-source project

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#14

Post by Aeolun »

nikcub wrote: post #11

> Chances are, if you’ve used ChatGPT, Google Labs, Cal.com or a million other websites, you’ve already interacted with Auth.js. I missed OpenAI migrating away from auth0. They must have been one of their largest customers - anybody know the story?

Ory also claims they are used by openai, so I guess they built their solution on Ory services + better-auth?

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#15

Post by 9dev »

bstsb wrote: post #13
reilly3000 wrote: post #12

Better Auth has raised $5M. I don’t think it’s great to see a truly free project get absorbed into a commercial venture.

while i agree, in this case at least it looks like the money raised is for a future SaaS auth solution built on top of the open-source project

Which will invariably lead to that open source project to become less and less useful if implemented separately from the SaaS platform. I’ve seen this game plan often enough.

Good for them, bad for the rest of us.

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

#16

Post by 9dev »

jamesjulich wrote: post #8
dzonga wrote: post #5

only in javascript where auth is such a big issue. in rails you can use the rails 8 auth or a better alternative authentication-zero. before it was devise. java - spring security, shiro etc. but just complex things. alternatively - use services like fusionAuth

It’s not that auth is unsolved in other languages/frameworks, but it’s often way too complex or configuration-heavy. If adding passkey support to my app is going to take 2 hours, that’s two hours I’m spending away from building my core product. For smaller projects, that’s not time that I could afford. For example, if I want to add passkeys to my .NET CORE app, this is the guide Microsoft provides: https://learn.micr…

It’s Microsoft. Did you expect less than 30 pages of useless techno-babble?

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#17

Post by tonyhart7 »

nikcub wrote: post #11

> Chances are, if you’ve used ChatGPT, Google Labs, Cal.com or a million other websites, you’ve already interacted with Auth.js. I missed OpenAI migrating away from auth0. They must have been one of their largest customers - anybody know the story?

"anybody know the story?"

what story??? chance are if you are planet scale enterprise, you are big enough to maintain or create or fork popular custom OSS auth themselves

I mean can you imagine the cost ??? also the effect of third party that hold your entire user data

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

#18

Post by grinich »

nikcub wrote: post #11

> Chances are, if you’ve used ChatGPT, Google Labs, Cal.com or a million other websites, you’ve already interacted with Auth.js. I missed OpenAI migrating away from auth0. They must have been one of their largest customers - anybody know the story?

They migrated SSO/SAML to WorkOS, and consumer auth to forked open source.

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#19

Post by gbear605 »

nikcub wrote: post #11

> Chances are, if you’ve used ChatGPT, Google Labs, Cal.com or a million other websites, you’ve already interacted with Auth.js. I missed OpenAI migrating away from auth0. They must have been one of their largest customers - anybody know the story?

I don’t know the story, but I’m not surprised. I led an effort to switch my company to Auth0 recently and they’re… bad. They have very poor support for anything even barely outside of normal, and when things are working correctly they not very good.

But when you have a requirement to move to a third party SaaS service, I suppose Auth0 is maybe the best of a bad bunch.

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

#20

Post by kbumsik »

dzonga wrote: post #5

only in javascript where auth is such a big issue. in rails you can use the rails 8 auth or a better alternative authentication-zero. before it was devise. java - spring security, shiro etc. but just complex things. alternatively - use services like fusionAuth

In case if you don't know, Auth.js is not a frontend-only framework. It uses a backend server to make it secure.

So it basically has no difference from the alternatives you mentioned.

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