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Re: Electron-based apps cause system-wide lag on macOS 26 Tahoe

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Discord and VSCode work smoothly for me on an M4 MBP -- not sure if it's a compatibility difference or just performance hiding the problem, though. But Spotlight file search is completely broken, rebuilding the index doesn't help, and web results are the only thing it returns. After 20 years of intense research, Apple finally caught up to Microsoft in race to make search broken and useless.

Search works great for me, I’m sorry it broke on your machine but it needs to be broken for everyone to be on Microsoft’s level

Haha fair enough, and now it's fixed on my machine but Windows Search is still asking if you'd like Bing with that.

Re: Electron-based apps cause system-wide lag on macOS 26 Tahoe

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I’m surprised to see so little pushback in press to iOS/macOS 26.

I’ve been part of the public beta and it’s been so weird going from “this sucks but it’s a first beta” through “it really isn’t improving much as time goes by” to “we’re a week from launch, there’s no way they release this after the Apple Intelligence fiasco”.

And yet here we are. Performance issues, ui inconsistencies and garish design everywhere.

Re: Electron-based apps cause system-wide lag on macOS 26 Tahoe

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Notes from the Google bug tracker linked by the GitHub issue: applying this command to each Chrome/Chromium app impacting your system will workaround the underlying macOS resource leak (EDIT: which only occurs when Electron mucks with private APIs to fake having native UI):

    defaults write com.google.Chrome NSAutoFillHeuristicControllerEnabled -bool false
https://issues.chromium.org/issues/446481994#comment17

That command’s equivalent is being patched into Chrome and will have to ripple downward into Electron apps; directing complaints to each electron app impacted with a link to the relevant Google issue workaround will give them sufficient data to mitigate it, if they bother to.

Apple is already aware — https://x.com/ian_mcdowell/status/1967326413830472191 (apologies for the Twitter link, but it’s an Apple employee). EDIT: Someone else has traced the issue to Electron messing with internal OS APIs! Courtesy of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45377253

> It turns out Electron was overriding a private AppKit API (_cornerMask) to apply custom corner masks to vibrant views.

ps. This issue was discussed a week ago here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45292019

pps. Manually applying this workaround without scheduling its future removal has a slight but non-zero risk of someday breaking OS-linked autofill in your electron apps in weird or unexpected ways.

ppps. I don’t work for anyone, school for another three years minimum.

Re: Electron-based apps cause system-wide lag on macOS 26 Tahoe

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Discord and VSCode work smoothly for me on an M4 MBP -- not sure if it's a compatibility difference or just performance hiding the problem, though. But Spotlight file search is completely broken, rebuilding the index doesn't help, and web results are the only thing it returns. After 20 years of intense research, Apple finally caught up to Microsoft in race to make search broken and useless.

> But Spotlight file search is completely broken, rebuilding the index doesn't help, and web results are the only thing it returns.

I had the same issue; killing Spotlight processes fixed it. (A reboot would probably do the job too.)

Re: Electron-based apps cause system-wide lag on macOS 26 Tahoe

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I’m surprised to see so little pushback in press to iOS/macOS 26. I’ve been part of the public beta and it’s been so weird going from “this sucks but it’s a first beta” through “it really isn’t improving much as time goes by” to “we’re a week from launch, there’s no way they release this after the Apple Intelligence fiasco”. And yet here we are. Performance issues, ui inconsistencies and garish design everywhere.

Yeah, screen time for kids is absolutely broken in iOS 26.

Re: Electron-based apps cause system-wide lag on macOS 26 Tahoe

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I’m surprised to see so little pushback in press to iOS/macOS 26. I’ve been part of the public beta and it’s been so weird going from “this sucks but it’s a first beta” through “it really isn’t improving much as time goes by” to “we’re a week from launch, there’s no way they release this after the Apple Intelligence fiasco”. And yet here we are. Performance issues, ui inconsistencies and garish design everywhere.

I'd hate to suggest this, but I'm concerned that outlets are hesitant to critize Apple for fear of them losing access.

Re: Electron-based apps cause system-wide lag on macOS 26 Tahoe

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Don't Electron-based apps cause lag on basically any system?

I know it's a defacto complaint to leverage against Electron apps, but memory usage notwithstanding, I've never run into much lag issue on any major Electron app.

It depends. Numerous times when internet is spotty Slack and Discord both on different occasions have brought my systems to a halt until they can complete whatever task is stuck waiting (or I force close them).

It's really fucking obnoxious that somehow a goddamn web app in a wrapper is managing to cause system wide hangs.

Re: Electron-based apps cause system-wide lag on macOS 26 Tahoe

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https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/48311#issuecomme... If this comment is to be believed, it's not Apple's fault. It's the apps mucking around with the internals of AppKit. This example just happens to illustrate two of my least favorite software engineering practices: (1) despite one piece of code making a method private, another piece of code still overrides it/modifies it/calls it, an affront to the idea…

"Not Apple's fault" is up for debate; even if Electron shouldn't be doing this, Apple arguably shouldn't be pushing out updates that cause issues with wide-swaths of software that users use regardless.

Re: Electron-based apps cause system-wide lag on macOS 26 Tahoe

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post #17

I’m surprised to see so little pushback in press to iOS/macOS 26. I’ve been part of the public beta and it’s been so weird going from “this sucks but it’s a first beta” through “it really isn’t improving much as time goes by” to “we’re a week from launch, there’s no way they release this after the Apple Intelligence fiasco”. And yet here we are. Performance issues, ui inconsistencies and garish design everywhere.

I'd hate to suggest this, but I'm concerned that outlets are hesitant to critize Apple for fear of them losing access.

That would make sense for the mainstream outlets, but I’d expect a large number of influencers jumping on the bandwagon of “apple in hot water!!”.
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