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Re: Qwen3-VL

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Post by Computer0 »

be7a wrote: post #4

The biggest takeaway is that they claim SOTA for multi-modal stuff even ahead of proprietary models and still released it as open-weights. My first tests suggest this might actually be true, will continue testing. Wow

I feel like most Open Source releases regardless of size claim to be similar in output quality to SOTA closed source stuff.

Re: Qwen3-VL

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Post by esafak »

causal wrote: post #3

That has got to be the most benchmarks I've ever seen posted with an announcement. Kudos for not just cherrypicking a favorable set.

We should stop reporting saturated benchmarks.

Re: Qwen3-VL

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Post by swyx »

willahmad wrote: post #6

China is winning the hearts of developers in this race so far. At least, they won mine already.

so.. why do you think they are trying this hard to win your heart?

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Post by llllm »

swyx wrote: post #14
willahmad wrote: post #6

China is winning the hearts of developers in this race so far. At least, they won mine already.

so.. why do you think they are trying this hard to win your heart?

they aren’t even trying hard, it’s just that no one else is trying

Re: Qwen3-VL

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Post by willahmad »

swyx wrote: post #14
willahmad wrote: post #6

China is winning the hearts of developers in this race so far. At least, they won mine already.

so.. why do you think they are trying this hard to win your heart?

They might have dozens of reasons, but they already did what they did.

Some of the reasons could be:

- mitigation of US AI supremacy

- Commodify AI use to push forward innovation and sell platforms to run them, e.g. if iPhone wins local intelligence, it benefits China, because China is manufacturing those phones

- talent war inside China

- soften the sentiment against China in the US

- they're just awesome people

- and many more

Re: Qwen3-VL

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Post by brokencode »

swyx wrote: post #14
willahmad wrote: post #6

China is winning the hearts of developers in this race so far. At least, they won mine already.

so.. why do you think they are trying this hard to win your heart?

Maybe they just want to see one of the biggest stock bubble pops of all time in the US.

Re: Qwen3-VL

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Post by helloericsf »

If you're in SF, you don't want to miss this. The Qwen team is making their first public appearance in the United States, with the VP of Qwen Lab speaking at the meetup below during SF teach week. https://partiful.com/e/P7E418jd6Ti6hA40H6Qm Rare opportunity to directly engage with the Qwen team members.

Re: Qwen3-VL

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Post by michaelt »

swyx wrote: post #14
willahmad wrote: post #6

China is winning the hearts of developers in this race so far. At least, they won mine already.

so.. why do you think they are trying this hard to win your heart?

I can see how it would be in China's interest to make sure there was an LLM that produced cutting edge performance in Chinese-language conversations.

And some uses of LLMs are intensely political; think of a student using an LLM to learn about the causes of the civil war. I can understand a country wanting their own LLMs for the same reason they write their own history textbooks.

By releasing the weights they they can get free volunteer help, win hearts and minds with their open approach, weaken foreign corporations, give their citizens robust performance in their native language, and exercise narrative control - all at the same time.

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