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Denmark wants to push through Chat Control
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#13Any protests planned?
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Are you in the habit of just making shit up as you go?
>The EU has no real free speech protections
Yes they do[1] and even certain EU bodies expect that the law as proposed will likely be invalidated by courts[2].
>and many countries have been developing increasingly aggressive speech laws and police.
I'd say invasive, rather than aggressive, but yes. This has always been true and will likely always be true. Governments try to expand their own powers. News at 11.
>You can be arrested or fined for speaking objective truths in countries like
Name a country in which this doesn't hold true. Revealing classified information, trade secrets, court-protected information, doxing, obscenity, ..., will get you in trouble in many places.
>like Germany or the UK
The UK isn't even in the EU anymore. In fact while they still were in the EU, the ECJ ruled parts of their Investigatory Powers Act unlawful[3]. I don't know how that adds up with the picture you're trying to paint.
[1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:12... [2] https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-8787-2023-I... [3] https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/dec/21/eus-highest-cour...
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
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It is a joke, heavily sarcastic ("common-sense tech control"), but there is a grain of truth. It's inspired after all the victory laps HN had about the EU's moral superiority after GDPR, sideloading, USB-C, not being America in 2024, only for this to shatter all illusions. Flagged now, but HN has always been terrible at anything not delivered in a mundane tone of boredom.
HN's tone changes depending on the time of day.
HN appears very pro-EU in the mornings because that tends to align with the afternoon in much of Europe, just like how you tend to see more China or India content in the evenings when it's morning-afternoon in those markets. I also see more American political content around 5am-7am PT because that appears to be the time of day when EST and CST is at work.
All the timezones basically converge around 7am-11am PT though.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Jimmy Kimmel got suspended for his speech after the government threatened his employer.
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That is how the government is trying to save face now that Disney decided to stand up to them.
Their threats are public, their later lies do not change them.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
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It is a joke, heavily sarcastic ("common-sense tech control"), but there is a grain of truth. It's inspired after all the victory laps HN had about the EU's moral superiority after GDPR, sideloading, USB-C, not being America in 2024, only for this to shatter all illusions. Flagged now, but HN has always been terrible at anything not delivered in a mundane tone of boredom.
> HN has always been terrible at anything not delivered
Nah, you're being dishonest. Your "joke" doesn't really make sense though, the US clearly IS turning into a fascist state and whether or not another group has similar politic is legitimately completely irrelevant.
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#19Does anyone really think it won't pass?
It might pass, but if it does, the courts will strike it down. Separation of powers still works in the EU.