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Beyond the Front Page: A Personal Guide to Hacker News

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Re: Beyond the Front Page: A Personal Guide to Hacker News

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Post by emschwartz »

rdmuser wrote: post #8
emschwartz wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developer of Scour here. Really glad to hear you're enjoying it! Comments like these are very motivating, so thank you!

Tbh I've been working on a big feedback list since early this year after finding scour through /r/rss. This year got busy etc so I haven't sent it in yet but I'd like to soon once I polish it up. Being able to apply custom interests to all feeds globally has been a wonderful way to run into new stuff online. I was genuinely surprised how great of addition scour was to my rss setup since I'm already a longterm experie…

Hearing this makes my day :)

Feedback is extremely welcome! Feel free to email ideas to me (in any state of polish) or post them on https://feedback.scour.ing. Looking forward to hearing your suggestions!

Re: Beyond the Front Page: A Personal Guide to Hacker News

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Post by matheusmoreira »

lapcat wrote: post #5

> There were many large forums that hit a tipping point where low-effort posting and polarization drag everything down. How does HN resist the slide? It doesn't. Admittedly, HN discussion is generally of higher "quality" than Reddit, at least for large subreddits, but that's a very low bar to hurdle. > The HN welcome page lays out two cardinal rules: don’t post or upvote crap links, and don’t be rude or dumb in comme…

Discussion here is generally of higher quality because of the people who come here. Lots of developers of all kinds, tech company employees, insiders, people who invented the algorithms you read about in the books, people who invented the programming languages we use.

I for one ignore the articles and go straight for the comments. I care a lot more about what smart people think than the articles themselves. The news that get posted here are just provocation to get them to post their opinions. Chances are any truly important information will be directly quoted by HN comments anyway.

Re: Beyond the Front Page: A Personal Guide to Hacker News

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Post by liotier »

ipnon wrote: post #2

The best comments are at the bottom. I’ve been twaddling here long enough to know what the most upvoted take will be, so unless it’s a personal anecdote it’s not worth reading. The real juicers are usually buried near the bottom of the page, a few comments above where the apathy and sarcasm start bleeding into grey.

I imagine the author of the parent comment despairing of being upvoted.

Re: Beyond the Front Page: A Personal Guide to Hacker News

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Post by causal »

ipnon wrote: post #2

The best comments are at the bottom. I’ve been twaddling here long enough to know what the most upvoted take will be, so unless it’s a personal anecdote it’s not worth reading. The real juicers are usually buried near the bottom of the page, a few comments above where the apathy and sarcasm start bleeding into grey.

This comment ironically at the top

Re: Beyond the Front Page: A Personal Guide to Hacker News

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Post by causal »

_fat_santa wrote: post #9

IMO one of the things that makes HN so special is the "culture" here. Having been on here since 2018, most folks here are acutely aware of the issues that other sites like Reddit have and we all collectively work to preserve this space so it doesn't become like the other places. If I see a meme on Reddit I would probably upvote it, but if I see that exact same meme on here I would downvote and probably report it too.…

I wonder how much of the difference is just because HN doesn't allow you to post / display images inline like Reddit does, forcing users to engage with the content (written or video) rather than just reflexively upvote low-effort content.

Re: Beyond the Front Page: A Personal Guide to Hacker News

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Post by emschwartz »

rdmuser wrote: post #8
emschwartz wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developer of Scour here. Really glad to hear you're enjoying it! Comments like these are very motivating, so thank you!

Tbh I've been working on a big feedback list since early this year after finding scour through /r/rss. This year got busy etc so I haven't sent it in yet but I'd like to soon once I polish it up. Being able to apply custom interests to all feeds globally has been a wonderful way to run into new stuff online. I was genuinely surprised how great of addition scour was to my rss setup since I'm already a longterm experie…

TBH, _I_ was also genuinely surprised when I made the initial MVP of Scour, pointed it at HN Newest, and right away was finding great posts with only 1-3 points.

I thought a lot of good stuff was probably getting buried in the fire hose, but I had no idea how well it would actually work at finding those hidden gems for me.

Re: Beyond the Front Page: A Personal Guide to Hacker News

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Post by lapcat »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #12
lapcat wrote: post #5

> There were many large forums that hit a tipping point where low-effort posting and polarization drag everything down. How does HN resist the slide? It doesn't. Admittedly, HN discussion is generally of higher "quality" than Reddit, at least for large subreddits, but that's a very low bar to hurdle. > The HN welcome page lays out two cardinal rules: don’t post or upvote crap links, and don’t be rude or dumb in comme…

Discussion here is generally of higher quality because of the people who come here. Lots of developers of all kinds, tech company employees, insiders, people who invented the algorithms you read about in the books, people who invented the programming languages we use. I for one ignore the articles and go straight for the comments. I care a lot more about what smart people think than the articles themselves. The news…

> I care a lot more what smart people think about the articles than the articles themselves.

Frankly, I'd say that the article authors are smarter on average than the article commenters and in any case are vastly more careful and informed on average than the article commenters. There are of course exceptions to the averages, but it doesn't balance out, because the worst article commenters are infinitely worse than the worst article authors and wreck the discussions for everyone else.

> The news are just provocation to get them to post their opinions.

That's precisely the problem!

Re: Beyond the Front Page: A Personal Guide to Hacker News

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Post by matheusmoreira »

causal wrote: post #15
_fat_santa wrote: post #9

IMO one of the things that makes HN so special is the "culture" here. Having been on here since 2018, most folks here are acutely aware of the issues that other sites like Reddit have and we all collectively work to preserve this space so it doesn't become like the other places. If I see a meme on Reddit I would probably upvote it, but if I see that exact same meme on here I would downvote and probably report it too.…

I wonder how much of the difference is just because HN doesn't allow you to post / display images inline like Reddit does, forcing users to engage with the content (written or video) rather than just reflexively upvote low-effort content.

It's because of the people who come here. You might post about a project and discover that the person who made the thing is replying to you.

Re: Beyond the Front Page: A Personal Guide to Hacker News

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Post by [deleted] »

emschwartz wrote: post #11
rdmuser wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tbh I've been working on a big feedback list since early this year after finding scour through /r/rss. This year got busy etc so I haven't sent it in yet but I'd like to soon once I polish it up. Being able to apply custom interests to all feeds globally has been a wonderful way to run into new stuff online. I was genuinely surprised how great of addition scour was to my rss setup since I'm already a longterm experie…

Hearing this makes my day :) Feedback is extremely welcome! Feel free to email ideas to me (in any state of polish) or post them on https://feedback.scour.ing . Looking forward to hearing your suggestions!

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Re: Beyond the Front Page: A Personal Guide to Hacker News

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Post by ksymph »

emschwartz wrote: post #11
rdmuser wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tbh I've been working on a big feedback list since early this year after finding scour through /r/rss. This year got busy etc so I haven't sent it in yet but I'd like to soon once I polish it up. Being able to apply custom interests to all feeds globally has been a wonderful way to run into new stuff online. I was genuinely surprised how great of addition scour was to my rss setup since I'm already a longterm experie…

Hearing this makes my day :) Feedback is extremely welcome! Feel free to email ideas to me (in any state of polish) or post them on https://feedback.scour.ing . Looking forward to hearing your suggestions!

Hey, was checking out the site and stumbled across a small bug: head to https://scour.ing/browse/feeds/popular while logged out, press the + button on a feed, and it breaks the browser back button. Happens on FF and Chrome.
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