Can this tech be used for EV batteries?
Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool
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Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool
#12Why the emphasis on Apple when Samsung was there first? It looks like the competition is making them sweat (pun intended).
But the sweat is evaporating now, at least.
But seriously though, I think it's just due to larger market share (at least in the US), so more people are seeing it and commenting on it.
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#13Why the emphasis on Apple when Samsung was there first? It looks like the competition is making them sweat (pun intended).
You should know how this goes by now. It's not like this is the first time Apple introduced an old technology but marketed it like they invented sliced bread. I give their marketing team credit.
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#14Not exactly brand new tech, but now on a mobile device without the long-term security baggage that often comes from using Android.
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#15Can this tech be used for EV batteries?
I guess? But vapor chambers are mostly good where space is a premium and where passive (non-powered) cooling is enough.
I'm guessing for EV batteries, better options exist since you obviously have power. Although sometimes vapor chambers are used in conjunction with active cooling.
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#16This is a heat pipe. A technology from the 60s. Your laptop almost certainly has heat pipes in it. They usually use alcohol rather than water as the phase change material though. The (relatively) novel thing is that it's packaged small enough to be in a phone. I suspect the only reason it hasn't been used in handhelds more is because the TDP of mobile processors wasn't high enough to warrant it.
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#17I have an iPhone Air now and have no complaints about the heating. The thinness is worth the occasional heat and throttle down. Every time I pick up this phone, it just feels fantastic!
Serious question: how is the thinness providing value? Is it simply the feel?
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#18Why the emphasis on Apple when Samsung was there first? It looks like the competition is making them sweat (pun intended).
Samsung is not Apple. Relatively no one cares about Samsung outside Korea.
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#19Phone usage is getting more intense as we move from mere passive consumption to having them as creative (compute) device. "Heat" is sort of reflection of that. I want to see more optimization to reduce the heat from both hardware as in this case and in software side as well. I guess it is easier to show enhancements about hardware made to address something such as heat or processing but comparatively difficult or abs…
From a keynote perspective, I guess showing software optimizations is less cinematic and not everyone can appreciate them as opposed to new or beautiful looking hardware.
Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool
#20This is a heat pipe. A technology from the 60s. Your laptop almost certainly has heat pipes in it. They usually use alcohol rather than water as the phase change material though. The (relatively) novel thing is that it's packaged small enough to be in a phone. I suspect the only reason it hasn't been used in handhelds more is because the TDP of mobile processors wasn't high enough to warrant it.
It's a little bit older than just the 60s..