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Re: Want to learn Rails? Start here.
#12Usual things in rails is really simple but doing unusual things requires going down a rabbit hole of google searching, rdoc, blogs, etc due to the modularity (I had this issue with thor) of rails.
This sounds just like Django. I wonder if this is just something that inevitably happens with comprehensive frameworks?
I remember I once suggested that the people behind GitHub consider whether they could leverage their pull requests as a practical alternative to Stack Overflow, but they basically told me (in a formal boilerplate response) to fuck off.
Re: Want to learn Rails? Start here.
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#14Very solid approach. As an incoming Fall '12 DBC student, I've found Ruby Koans (http://rubykoans.com/) and Ruby Cookbook (http://www.amazon.com/Cookbook-Cookbooks-OReilly-Lucas-Carls...) to be incredibly helpful in grounding and adding more context to my Rails Tutorial experience.
Re: Want to learn Rails? Start here.
#15Somewhat tangential, but I wish there were more comprehensive learning resources for Clojure, particularly getting started with web development. Given that there is no equivalent of Django or Rails, and web development in clj is really about assembling a collection of libraries (Ring, Compojure/Moustache, Enlive/Hiccup etc), it is much harder for the initiate to understand how everything fits together. The fact that Rails is so opinionated also really helps the new developer become productive in a relatively short timeframe.
I'd imagine this would apply to just about any other language as well really. The Ruby community really is fortunate to have such brilliant free resources out there for learning Rails and the language.
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#16I'm actually in the process of learning Ruby right now. I'm curious though. From the perspective of someone who has hasn't been programming for a long time, would you consider it a good idea to learn Ruby before learning Rails? I'm waiting on my copy of The Well-Grounded Rubyist to arrive so I can get started.
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#17Somewhat tangential, but I wish there were more comprehensive learning resources for Clojure, particularly getting started with web development. Given that there is no equivalent of Django or Rails, and web development in clj is really about assembling a collection of libraries (Ring, Compojure/Moustache, Enlive/Hiccup etc), it is much harder for the initiate to understand how everything fits together. The fact that…
Have you tried Noir? (http://webnoir.org/)
Re: Want to learn Rails? Start here.
#18I'm actually in the process of learning Ruby right now. I'm curious though. From the perspective of someone who has hasn't been programming for a long time, would you consider it a good idea to learn Ruby before learning Rails? I'm waiting on my copy of The Well-Grounded Rubyist to arrive so I can get started.
Check out http://tryruby.org/ while you wait. I just ran through it again last night and it's so beautifully crafted I want to weep.
I learnt Ruby kind-of-alongside Rails and wish I'd spent more time focusing on the language itself; I'm going back and deepening my knowledge of it now. But it depends on how your mind works, whether you want to get a Rails project going yesterday, what knowledge you have locked away somewhere, and so on.
Re: Want to learn Rails? Start here.
#19I'm actually in the process of learning Ruby right now. I'm curious though. From the perspective of someone who has hasn't been programming for a long time, would you consider it a good idea to learn Ruby before learning Rails? I'm waiting on my copy of The Well-Grounded Rubyist to arrive so I can get started.
Absolutely. I'm a non-programmer that had been working on picking up Rails a number of times without a good background in Ruby. Each time I'd run into one issue or another and not have enough knowledge to push past it.
I've put in a bit of time in Ruby and it's opened up Rails (and programming in general) for me more than I thought it would. The biggest advantage, besides just general programming, is reading other people's code and documentation. Recently, I've been exploring i18n (internationalization) in Rails. By going into time_ago_in_words helper, I was led to the distance_of_time_in_words helper and it's source code (https://github.com/rails/rails/blob/bd8a9701c27b4261e9d8dd84...). By understanding enough ruby, the Rails code became a wonderful source of documentation.
Re: Want to learn Rails? Start here.
#20Somewhat tangential, but I wish there were more comprehensive learning resources for Clojure, particularly getting started with web development. Given that there is no equivalent of Django or Rails, and web development in clj is really about assembling a collection of libraries (Ring, Compojure/Moustache, Enlive/Hiccup etc), it is much harder for the initiate to understand how everything fits together. The fact that…
Have you tried Noir? ( http://webnoir.org/ )
Yes, in fact I'm building my MVP on Noir. Noir is an excellent place to start, but I suspect the documentation and tutorials are not keeping up with the state of the framework and all of the awesome periphery things that Chris Granger is working on in the Clojurescript space.
Initially there was going to be a complimentary framework for Noir called Pinot for client-side code (clojurescript), which has since been broken up into a number of different libraries. Having more guidance around structuring large projects with these new tools (https://github.com/ibdknox/fetch, https://github.com/ibdknox/crate, https://github.com/ibdknox/jayq) in the context of a Noir app would be superb.
I suspect these things will come given time - web development in Clojure is evolving very quickly and compared to Ruby is relatively new. The Clojure community is also much smaller than the Ruby community I would imagine, so it follows that there will be fewer learning resources about.