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Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

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> Windows 11 (dual booting with FreeBSD 15 Not sure if you are aware of this but dual booting can be broken with new Windows update if you're not using different disks.

The BitLocker thing? I turned off the TPM and “““Secure””” Boot so it shouldn't do that.

Windows still likes to occasionally clobber your EFI entries and wipe out grub if it sees it.

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

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The BitLocker thing? I turned off the TPM and “““Secure””” Boot so it shouldn't do that.

Windows still likes to occasionally clobber your EFI entries and wipe out grub if it sees it.

You can use the windows boot loader to boot other operating systems. I guess there's no guarantee an update won't remove it from the menu, though. A lot of systems have a boot menu built into UEFI these days, too, which will show you all the bootable partitions on the system.

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

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> The one idea I still have left is to enable the hidden administrator account in Windows 11, which gives you password-free access to what is basically Windows’ root account. Pardon my pedantry, but technically Windows' equivalent of the root account is `NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM`, although it's a little different in that it isn't an account one can use to Logon. You're right that `Administrator` is the highest privilege l…

The problem with Linux, they say, is that you have to fiddle with it endlessly to get it working; Windows, by contrast, Just Works Right Out of the Box.

Oh, but you don't actually want to use Windows as it comes out of the box, so they tell us you have to use a custom build, replace utilman.exe with cmd.exe, create an unattend.xml, don't connect it to the internet during the install procedure, run these commands, make these registry changes, apply these group policies, and install these aftermarket utilities and then you can FINALLY get a decent Windows experience.

Just don't use Windows Update, or it will all be reset again.

I'm glad I left that world behind.

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

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This kind of shit used to be explicitly tested against. Get a Windows 7 install, fill up all but the last few bytes on the main HDD, it'll work fine, you'll be able to login and delete stuff.

Completely saturate memory, RAM full, swap full, the OS will still work. It'll be slow and messy, but you'll be able to navigate around enough to get shit ton.

Heck I suspect these scenarios would work even on Windows 10.

What kind of laughable tests doesn't even bother with the most obvious edge cases of "disk full"?

That isn't an uncommon scenario, quite the opposite, it is a very common scenario.

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

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> The one idea I still have left is to enable the hidden administrator account in Windows 11, which gives you password-free access to what is basically Windows’ root account. Pardon my pedantry, but technically Windows' equivalent of the root account is `NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM`, although it's a little different in that it isn't an account one can use to Logon. You're right that `Administrator` is the highest privilege l…

The problem with Linux, they say, is that you have to fiddle with it endlessly to get it working; Windows, by contrast, Just Works Right Out of the Box. Oh, but you don't actually want to use Windows as it comes out of the box, so they tell us you have to use a custom build, replace utilman.exe with cmd.exe, create an unattend.xml, don't connect it to the internet during the install procedure, run these commands, mak…

After that I’d still have to clear hundreds of gigabytes of disk space it hordes under \Windows.

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

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> The third dark pattern is OneDrive secretely downloading 280GB of photos and videos without once realising this was way more data than her root drive could store. That's not a dark pattern, it's just a failure in software development. Microsoft doesn't get anything from overflowing your disk.

If windows borks itself how many people will just give up and buy a new computer? That's Microsoft's entire game right now with obsoleting perfectly good hardware. But yes, this one is most likely just plain incompetence

Microsoft destroying your computer with bugs is just as likely to make someone go buy a MacBook.

Re: Dark patterns killed my wife's Windows 11 installation

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The past few years I’ve been hearing crazy stories of workarounds and scripts to deal with all these new features in Windows. Isn’t that what was preventing people from using Linux? Replacing utilman.exe with cmd.exe is not something a normal user would ever do.

Normal users in this situation either buy a new computer or take it in to a tech support business to have it fixed.

An average user will never install an OS manually so the only areas it’s succeeding are where it’s preinstalled like on the steam deck.

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