as better models are introduced, figurative language, implication, cultural nuancec etc. becomes easier to reconcile.
After Babel Fish: The promise of cheap translations at the speed of the Web
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Re: After Babel Fish: The promise of cheap translations at the speed of the Web
#12> “The poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.” This Douglas Adams quote could also apply to the internet writ large
Re: After Babel Fish: The promise of cheap translations at the speed of the Web
#13> “The poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.” This Douglas Adams quote could also apply to the internet writ large
Can you elaborate on your position? To me the opposite is far more obvious: the Internet has enabled people from all over the world to meet, learn from each other, become friends. "The Russians/Chinese/whatever" are no longer just a faceless group of people who are trying to take over the world - they're the person you worked with a few years ago, the friend you've played games with for years, the open source develop…
Re: After Babel Fish: The promise of cheap translations at the speed of the Web
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you elaborate on your position? To me the opposite is far more obvious: the Internet has enabled people from all over the world to meet, learn from each other, become friends. "The Russians/Chinese/whatever" are no longer just a faceless group of people who are trying to take over the world - they're the person you worked with a few years ago, the friend you've played games with for years, the open source develop…
That's certainly one facet of the Internet. Another is the Internet being a tool for nation state actors and grifters to undermine, lead astray and pit against each other large parts of the population, plus its uncanny ability to give rise and reach to the most abstruse ideas like anti vax and flat earth and alt right and incels and Q anon and all that (which usually circles back to aforementioned actors using it as…
(I also find it notable that you'd include "alt right" in that list, as if there's no crazies on the far left.)
Re: After Babel Fish: The promise of cheap translations at the speed of the Web
#15> “The poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.” This Douglas Adams quote could also apply to the internet writ large
Can you elaborate on your position? To me the opposite is far more obvious: the Internet has enabled people from all over the world to meet, learn from each other, become friends. "The Russians/Chinese/whatever" are no longer just a faceless group of people who are trying to take over the world - they're the person you worked with a few years ago, the friend you've played games with for years, the open source develop…
This is the statement of the "contact hypothesis"
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Contact_hypothesi...
Be aware that there is also evidence for the negative contact hypothesis:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Contact_hypothesi...
"Stefania Paolini, Jake Harwood, and Mark Rubin (2010) proposed that intergroup contact may have more negative than positive effects on prejudice, because it makes outgroup members' social group more salient during encounters. [...] Negative sentiments triggered by proximity are also described as NIMBYism (Not In My Back Yard)."
In other words: it can also happen that if you get to know some people from other countries more, you begin to hate them more.
Re: After Babel Fish: The promise of cheap translations at the speed of the Web
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you elaborate on your position? To me the opposite is far more obvious: the Internet has enabled people from all over the world to meet, learn from each other, become friends. "The Russians/Chinese/whatever" are no longer just a faceless group of people who are trying to take over the world - they're the person you worked with a few years ago, the friend you've played games with for years, the open source develop…
> the Internet has enabled people from all over the world to meet, learn from each other, become friends. "The Russians/Chinese/whatever" are no longer just a faceless group of people who are trying to take over the world - they're the person you worked with a few years ago This is the statement of the "contact hypothesis" > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Contact_hypothesi... Be aware that there is also e…
Anyway, while I think there's some truth here, I do believe the benefits far outweigh the costs - in this instance, but also for the Internet in general, when you consider the other benefits (and risks of course) it brings - accessibility to education, for example.