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Re: Grove.io shutting down

#11

Post by na85 »

gkoberger wrote: post #2

This is disappointing. Grove.io was really awesome. IRC channels seem easy, but are (relatively) hard to get going: - Finding a server - Registering it properly - Explaining it to non-tech people The last one is way harder than you'd think. With Grove, you just send them a URL and it's easy. It's a shame they're shutting down. I stopped using because it was too expensive for a channel with a few friends (a channel wi…

>I stopped using because it was too expensive for a channel with a few friends (a channel with fewer than 10 friends was costing $25/month).

Wouldn't it be easier to just register a quakenet channel or even run your own passworded ircd on a spare linux box?

Re: Grove.io shutting down

#12

Post by kenneth_reitz »

whalesalad wrote: post #9
kenneth_reitz wrote: post #4

Shocking.

I feel/sense sarcasm. I did not see this being useful from day one.

It's sarcasm mixed with caremad.

I was a huge fan of Pownce, Motion, LeafyChat, Baconfile, Convore, and Grove. All failed.

I was really hoping this one would work, but after seeing no improvements in a year, it became obvious it wouldn't. :(

Re: Grove.io shutting down

#13

Post by smhinsey »

gkoberger wrote: post #2

This is disappointing. Grove.io was really awesome. IRC channels seem easy, but are (relatively) hard to get going: - Finding a server - Registering it properly - Explaining it to non-tech people The last one is way harder than you'd think. With Grove, you just send them a URL and it's easy. It's a shame they're shutting down. I stopped using because it was too expensive for a channel with a few friends (a channel wi…

I set Grove up for my distributed team but it didn't stick. I still think team-level chat is a problem worth solving, but nothing I've tried has gotten any real traction.

Re: Grove.io shutting down

#14

Post by roryokane »

Rayne wrote: post #7

It's getting a little difficult to trust stuff by Leah Culver. Everything (that I know of) that she has done so far has either shut down or been acquired and shut down. That said, no hard feelings. It's hard out there. I've never tried to run a company, so I can't judge.

List of projects by Leah Culver: http://blog.leahculver.com/about.html – Hurl, Baconfile, Convore, Pownce, and Grove.

Re: Grove.io shutting down

#15

Post by saurik »

smhinsey wrote: post #13
gkoberger wrote: post #2

This is disappointing. Grove.io was really awesome. IRC channels seem easy, but are (relatively) hard to get going: - Finding a server - Registering it properly - Explaining it to non-tech people The last one is way harder than you'd think. With Grove, you just send them a URL and it's easy. It's a shame they're shutting down. I stopped using because it was too expensive for a channel with a few friends (a channel wi…

I set Grove up for my distributed team but it didn't stick. I still think team-level chat is a problem worth solving, but nothing I've tried has gotten any real traction.

What are you currently using? I didn't use Grove, but I use IRC; I've definitely found that some people really take to it, and some people don't; some people even end up using IRC only to watch what other people are saying, and then send PMs as if they were using instant messenger, but never say things in the channel in public, even if they later talk about the things being said on IRC when we are all at dinner.

Re: Grove.io shutting down

#16

Post by saurik »

na85 wrote: post #11
gkoberger wrote: post #2

This is disappointing. Grove.io was really awesome. IRC channels seem easy, but are (relatively) hard to get going: - Finding a server - Registering it properly - Explaining it to non-tech people The last one is way harder than you'd think. With Grove, you just send them a URL and it's easy. It's a shame they're shutting down. I stopped using because it was too expensive for a channel with a few friends (a channel wi…

>I stopped using because it was too expensive for a channel with a few friends (a channel with fewer than 10 friends was costing $25/month). Wouldn't it be easier to just register a quakenet channel or even run your own passworded ircd on a spare linux box?

That does not solve the "The last one is way harder than you'd think." problem that was mentioned.

Re: Grove.io shutting down

#17

Post by smhinsey »

saurik wrote: post #15
smhinsey wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I set Grove up for my distributed team but it didn't stick. I still think team-level chat is a problem worth solving, but nothing I've tried has gotten any real traction.

What are you currently using? I didn't use Grove, but I use IRC; I've definitely found that some people really take to it, and some people don't; some people even end up using IRC only to watch what other people are saying, and then send PMs as if they were using instant messenger, but never say things in the channel in public, even if they later talk about the things being said on IRC when we are all at dinner.

It tends to naturally revert to gchat or aim, which are not awful, but they seem to make it easier to accidentally exclude people.

Re: Grove.io shutting down

#18

Post by webology »

kenneth_reitz wrote: post #12
whalesalad wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel/sense sarcasm. I did not see this being useful from day one.

It's sarcasm mixed with caremad. I was a huge fan of Pownce, Motion, LeafyChat, Baconfile, Convore, and Grove. All failed. I was really hoping this one would work, but after seeing no improvements in a year, it became obvious it wouldn't. :(

It's frustrating to see products die from what seems like as an outsider as attention rot. Then again, I completely understand moving on if an idea doesn't stick.

Re: Grove.io shutting down

#19

Post by robryan »

Rayne wrote: post #7

It's getting a little difficult to trust stuff by Leah Culver. Everything (that I know of) that she has done so far has either shut down or been acquired and shut down. That said, no hard feelings. It's hard out there. I've never tried to run a company, so I can't judge.

Was my first thought to, no real explanation of why they are shutting down either. If something is a low friction consumer app, it is expected that many will evolve and pivot.

With something like a business tool though I want something that is going to be around for the long term and it would be a factor on further products she creates.

From experience I know a startup is hard and things don't always go to plan so I can sympathise there, just that when choosing tools for business stability is a factor.

Re: Grove.io shutting down

#20

Post by pbiggar »

Rayne wrote: post #7

It's getting a little difficult to trust stuff by Leah Culver. Everything (that I know of) that she has done so far has either shut down or been acquired and shut down. That said, no hard feelings. It's hard out there. I've never tried to run a company, so I can't judge.

And yet you just did.

As a community we praise people for trying, then when it fails we pillory them? A dick move, sir.

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