Let's pray this liquid jelly doesnt become a trend
Same boat as you - hope it doesn't but I'm pretty sure it will. Apple is doing it, so other companies will jump on the same bandwagon.
Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content
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Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content
#12Providing an OS feature only to first-party programs is a plainly anticompetitive practice. Using your privileged position in one market (cell phones/cell phone operating systems) to gain an advantage in another market (smart phone applications) that you withhold from your competitors is a textbook case.
I wanted to be outraged at apple, but I really can't. Read WinAPI documentation and try to count all "reserved" parameters for example. OS developers build features just for internal use all the time.
Granted, this is just UI tweak so I'm not convinced it has to be private, but they probably just don't want to have to maintain that forever.
Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content
#13Providing an OS feature only to first-party programs is a plainly anticompetitive practice. Using your privileged position in one market (cell phones/cell phone operating systems) to gain an advantage in another market (smart phone applications) that you withhold from your competitors is a textbook case.
I wanted to be outraged at apple, but I really can't. Read WinAPI documentation and try to count all "reserved" parameters for example. OS developers build features just for internal use all the time. Granted, this is just UI tweak so I'm not convinced it has to be private, but they probably just don't want to have to maintain that forever.
Yeah, this seems reasonable to me. The better thing to get annoyed at Apple for is being slow to implement web standards. I guess you could make the argument that they are choosing to work on stuff like this instead, but I think that’s a weak argument.
Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content
#14> It stands to reason that Apple wouldn't have developed this feature if they weren't using it. Where? We have no idea. But they must be using it somewhere . The fact that none of us have noticed exactly where suggests that we're interacting with webviews in our daily use of iOS without ever even realising it. This is what stood out to me. I've never really suspected webviews and can't think of a place now.
The App Store app seems to be using web views extensively.
Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content
#15I like "Alastair's Grand Theory of In-App Webviews": the main reason webviews in apps have such a bad reputation is because you don't notice the webviews that are integrated seamlessly
There's also, in there somewhere, a corollary about how you don't notice the webviews which don't stick out but just don't feel right. Like, someone mentioned Settings app in MacOS might use them because the icons don't load fast enough.
I can't help but lament just a little bit. Apple used to be about insane polish. Just think about the mentality that created the rounded screen corners on the original Mac. That's just crazy and I admire it.
Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content
#16I like "Alastair's Grand Theory of In-App Webviews": the main reason webviews in apps have such a bad reputation is because you don't notice the webviews that are integrated seamlessly
"All toupées look fake. I've never seen one that I couldn't tell was fake."
Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content
#17> It stands to reason that Apple wouldn't have developed this feature if they weren't using it. Where? We have no idea. But they must be using it somewhere . The fact that none of us have noticed exactly where suggests that we're interacting with webviews in our daily use of iOS without ever even realising it. This is what stood out to me. I've never really suspected webviews and can't think of a place now.
I often suspect things in Settings, esp. account/iCloud section to be webviews, just based on how they load (icons appearing a short moment after the page opens for example).
When you tap some of the menu items in the “Saved to iCloud” section, they don’t have the normal grey item highlight that happens with the rest of the settings app.
Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content
#18Providing an OS feature only to first-party programs is a plainly anticompetitive practice. Using your privileged position in one market (cell phones/cell phone operating systems) to gain an advantage in another market (smart phone applications) that you withhold from your competitors is a textbook case.
I wanted to be outraged at apple, but I really can't. Read WinAPI documentation and try to count all "reserved" parameters for example. OS developers build features just for internal use all the time. Granted, this is just UI tweak so I'm not convinced it has to be private, but they probably just don't want to have to maintain that forever.
Private/secret APIs in DOS/Windows were a prominent part of the US and EU antitrust lawsuits against Microsoft in the 90s/00s.
Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content
#19Providing an OS feature only to first-party programs is a plainly anticompetitive practice. Using your privileged position in one market (cell phones/cell phone operating systems) to gain an advantage in another market (smart phone applications) that you withhold from your competitors is a textbook case.
I wanted to be outraged at apple, but I really can't. Read WinAPI documentation and try to count all "reserved" parameters for example. OS developers build features just for internal use all the time. Granted, this is just UI tweak so I'm not convinced it has to be private, but they probably just don't want to have to maintain that forever.
The key distinction is the withholding from your competitors part. WinAPI may have a ton of features labelled "pls no use thx" but MS doesn't block you from distributing a program that uses them anyway.
Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content
#20I like "Alastair's Grand Theory of In-App Webviews": the main reason webviews in apps have such a bad reputation is because you don't notice the webviews that are integrated seamlessly
"All toupées look fake. I've never seen one that I couldn't tell was fake."
"The Toupée Theory of In-App Webviews" is perfect. I might change it in the post.