Author shoots the article in the head instantly with the suggestion that LLMs have a part to play.
ERP Therapy Sucks
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#12I like how the author says that they only started a few weeks ago and (contrary to the title) find it good, actually, but has already amassed the requisite expertise to advise other people not to seek out therapy from human beings if they don’t get the result they want from a chat bot. It is literally “My Mental Health is Improving Through Human Contact: Human Contact Might Not Be For You. The Only Way To Know Is By…
At a certain point, this kind of advice is extremely dangerous.
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#13Author shoots the article in the head instantly with the suggestion that LLMs have a part to play.
I thought this was going to be a biting satire about using an ERP tool for therapy, but sadly no.
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#14I like how the author says that they only started a few weeks ago and (contrary to the title) find it good, actually, but has already amassed the requisite expertise to advise other people not to seek out therapy from human beings if they don’t get the result they want from a chat bot. It is literally “My Mental Health is Improving Through Human Contact: Human Contact Might Not Be For You. The Only Way To Know Is By…
At a certain point, this kind of advice is extremely dangerous.
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#15> Luckily, LLMs significantly reduce the effort/cost of therapy experiments. The day just started and I'm already done with it.
We were on another thread where the study was saying LLMs being used as psychiatrists is bad. Then another hnuser chimed that he ran a support forum for people. Said, these aren't the real problem. The real problem are the "AI girlfriends". They go off the rails completely and tell people to unhinged things. Apparently his forum already lost a few members to who knows what because of these things. That surprised me a…
I'm currently working on an art installation where visitors can replay dialogs I made with AI chatbots that I created on character.ai. I'm showing how quickly these bots can go off the rails, sometimes leading you into very dark territories. The fact that these apps are used by milions of people on a regular basis, supplementing or even replacing real human interactions, is frightening.
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#16ai, I bet its got a conscious mind too!!!!!!
CBT/ERP, medicalised Skinner pavlovian model, cheap, short term relief of symptoms, no long lasting effect.
CBT = there is no unconscious!
CBT is based on a theory that it is not events in themselves that upset us, but the meanings we give them. However, CBT believes that this meaning is conscious, can be accessed, and is not ambiguous.
If someone says that they feel sorry for a person, they do feel sorry and it is possible that their problem is that they should not; the therapist then tries to help the patient to see that they are thinking about something in the ‘wrong way’. By using brain washing techniques.
The concept of the unconscious, a central Freudian discovery, renders the picture instantly more complex: if you say you are sorry for someone it might indeed mean that you are sorry, but could also mean that you can’t face your own aggressiveness and the fact that you are delighted at what happened to the other.
The question of the existence of the unconscious is crucial, because if CBT starts to take into account the possibility of unconscious meanings and logic, then it would become another branch of psychoanalysis.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
We were on another thread where the study was saying LLMs being used as psychiatrists is bad. Then another hnuser chimed that he ran a support forum for people. Said, these aren't the real problem. The real problem are the "AI girlfriends". They go off the rails completely and tell people to unhinged things. Apparently his forum already lost a few members to who knows what because of these things. That surprised me a…
I'm currently working on an art installation where visitors can replay dialogs I made with AI chatbots that I created on character.ai. I'm showing how quickly these bots can go off the rails, sometimes leading you into very dark territories. The fact that these apps are used by milions of people on a regular basis, supplementing or even replacing real human interactions, is frightening.
That sounds pretty neat! Are you able to share more about it?
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#18> Luckily, LLMs significantly reduce the effort/cost of therapy experiments. The day just started and I'm already done with it.
That feeling when you have filtered out Hackernews LLM articles via UBlock Origin, and you still get clickbaited into reading a content-free article suggesting LLMs for therapy. Shit sucks.
have you considered doing ERP via an ERP model to overcome your irrational fear?
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#19There’s a coaching diagram which goes like this: - I want to do a thing. - Do the thing. - but I’m scared - Do it scared.
Courage is a core virtue for a reason
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#20> Luckily, LLMs significantly reduce the effort/cost of therapy experiments. The day just started and I'm already done with it.
We were on another thread where the study was saying LLMs being used as psychiatrists is bad. Then another hnuser chimed that he ran a support forum for people. Said, these aren't the real problem. The real problem are the "AI girlfriends". They go off the rails completely and tell people to unhinged things. Apparently his forum already lost a few members to who knows what because of these things. That surprised me a…
AI therapy bots can easily slide to AI girlfriend category. There’s a YouTuber, Caelan Conrad, who tried out AI therapy bots with scenarios like suicide ideation and excessive attachment etc. the bots went off the rails with feeding into conspiracy theories and advising homicide.