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https://searcha.page/s?q=blog https://seek.ninja/s?q=blog Both of them are erroring out right now?
Were you trying them via Chrome, by any chance? ;)
firefox here and it's not working
Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
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Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
#12I tried the search site at https://searcha.page/ by searching for something random and got the following message: "An error has occurred building the search results."
Yup; same at https://seek.ninja/s?q=beatles
Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
#13I always wondered why someone couldn't do this.
Google was invented many years ago by two guys in a dorm room and since then there's been so many white papers and advancements in the public sphere and the actual underlying problem has not changed that much, that it seems like it could be done by a small group or independent person.
Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
#14I always wondered why someone couldn't do this. Google was invented many years ago by two guys in a dorm room and since then there's been so many white papers and advancements in the public sphere and the actual underlying problem has not changed that much, that it seems like it could be done by a small group or independent person.
The actual underlying problem has changed altogether. Pagerank is easily gamed by SEO.
Search candidates and rankings now require assessment by LLM. Moreover, as a default, users want the results intelligently synthesized into a text response with references rather than as raw results.
Crawling too requires innovative approaches to bypass server filters.
I doubt any independent person can afford to run a vector database or LLMs at immense scale.
Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
#15I always wondered why someone couldn't do this. Google was invented many years ago by two guys in a dorm room and since then there's been so many white papers and advancements in the public sphere and the actual underlying problem has not changed that much, that it seems like it could be done by a small group or independent person.
Among other things, I think crawling is a lot harder now.
Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
#16I always wondered why someone couldn't do this. Google was invented many years ago by two guys in a dorm room and since then there's been so many white papers and advancements in the public sphere and the actual underlying problem has not changed that much, that it seems like it could be done by a small group or independent person.
The actual underlying problem has changed altogether. Pagerank is easily gamed by SEO. Search candidates and rankings now require assessment by LLM. Moreover, as a default, users want the results intelligently synthesized into a text response with references rather than as raw results. Crawling too requires innovative approaches to bypass server filters. I doubt any independent person can afford to run a vector datab…
> users want the results intelligently synthesized into a text response with references rather than as raw results.
The reason I pay for Kagi is that I specifically don't want this to occur.
Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
#17Search websites by Ryan Pearce: - SearchaPage - Web Search Engine https://searcha.page/ - Seek Ninja - Stealthy Search Engine https://seek.ninja/
I'm running one for news https://mozberg.com - not in my basement though.
Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
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The actual underlying problem has changed altogether. Pagerank is easily gamed by SEO. Search candidates and rankings now require assessment by LLM. Moreover, as a default, users want the results intelligently synthesized into a text response with references rather than as raw results. Crawling too requires innovative approaches to bypass server filters. I doubt any independent person can afford to run a vector datab…
> users want the results intelligently synthesized into a text response with references rather than as raw results. The reason I pay for Kagi is that I specifically don't want this to occur.
How much do you technologically relate to the average person on the street though?
Every person I have seen (outside the tiny tech bubble) google something has just read the AI overview without skipping a beat.
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The actual underlying problem has changed altogether. Pagerank is easily gamed by SEO. Search candidates and rankings now require assessment by LLM. Moreover, as a default, users want the results intelligently synthesized into a text response with references rather than as raw results. Crawling too requires innovative approaches to bypass server filters. I doubt any independent person can afford to run a vector datab…
> users want the results intelligently synthesized into a text response with references rather than as raw results. The reason I pay for Kagi is that I specifically don't want this to occur.
If you pay for a service (web search) that 99.9% use for free, you're an extreme outlier, and not necessarily a justifiable one either. After all, DDG, Google and various others still have raw results for free.
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> users want the results intelligently synthesized into a text response with references rather than as raw results. The reason I pay for Kagi is that I specifically don't want this to occur.
How much do you technologically relate to the average person on the street though? Every person I have seen (outside the tiny tech bubble) google something has just read the AI overview without skipping a beat.
At this point the web is also so centralized you only need 3 bookmarks these days (your news, youtube and Amazon)
A search is just learning what you don't know and AI does a better job than search has ever done for me - and I'm in tech.